Devin Singletary not scoring a TD with 34 seconds left

[chongli]

13 minutes ago, KHAN said:

Here's the thing.

 

At first  he was critical of the Bills for not taking the points. Called it "arrogant".

 

Then he criticized Motor for not at least getting the first down. He was corrected by the play by play guy that with only one time out left for Miami that point was totally wrong.

 

He then (and this is the best part) said that it would been better for Miami to pull Motor in to the end zone so they would at least have some time left to try to score. This totally contradicts his first criticism of the Bills.  That's a lot of fail in a very short period of time.

 

 

Survey Says: Mr. Butt Fumble sucks at QB and announcing.

 

So he did a complete reversal from saying the Bils should have scored to saying no, but the Dolphins should have dragged him in, lol!

[KHAN]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You understand that a fig -even that short - isn’t a 100%.  Bad snaps, kicker slipping or a fog block can all happen.  Imagine how dumb that looks if any of those things had occurred.  Answering that “they made the kick” misses the point.  
 

If you have a good playoff caliber defense, you should not be afraid of defending with a 7 point lead for 34 seconds - especially when the opponent has no timeouts.  Yes, Miami has some outstanding and fast WRs, but come on…

Bass is 98.2% on extra points. This field goal was 10 yards shorter than that.

 

So yes, I agree that there was a less than 2% chance that that would fail. You win.

 

 

[buffblue]

It was 100% the right play. The opportunity to run the clock down to zero and kick a very high percentage GW field goal was much more preferrable to giving Miami the ball back. Even in the unlikely event of a miss, the game would still go to OT 

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, KHAN said:

Bass is 98.2% on extra points. This field goal was 10 yards shorter than that.

 

So yes, I agree that there was a less than 2% chance that that would fail. You win.

 

 

So, what should probability that Miami can score a TD with no timeouts and 34 seconds be?

[North Buffalo]

I was a little shocked but agree with the decision... you control the ball the clock and the game.. possession is 9/10th of winning.

[Breakout Squad]

1 hour ago, JTown said:

I don't get it.  Yes it worked in our favor this time however,  with the field conditions deteriorating.   The field goal was NOT a given.   What would we be feeling like today if Bass slipped,  missed or the FG was blocked.  IMO,  I would have liked to see Singletary score and defend the 34 seconds in those weather conditions. 

The FG was absolutely the right decision. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

20 minutes ago, KHAN said:

Here's the thing.

 

At first  he was critical of the Bills for not taking the points. Called it "arrogant".

 

Then he criticized Motor for not at least getting the first down. He was corrected by the play by play guy that with only one time out left for Miami that point was totally wrong.

 

He then (and this is the best part) said that it would been better for Miami to pull Motor in to the end zone so they would at least have some time left to try to score. This totally contradicts his first criticism of the Bills.  That's a lot of fail in a very short period of time.

 

 

Survey Says: Mr. Butt Fumble sucks at QB and announcing.

Sanchez is stupid. He has no business calling games. 

[Boatdrinks]

22 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

That has worked 2x this year, but what it says to me is that the staff doesn’t trust the defense to be able to hold a lead for 34 seconds.  That’s a pretty harsh indictment of the defense without Miller.

The game is about winning, not defensive bravado. The percentages favored a kick in that situation so that was the strategy chosen. Why tempt fate with Tyreek Hill ? 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

4 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

So, what should probability that Miami can score a TD with no timeouts and 34 seconds be?

I would argue far grater than 2%. Maybe only 5 or 10% chance but still way higher than Bass missing. Miami already had a TD on broken coverage once. Plus a FG miss at worst leaves OT. If Miami had scored a TD they could play for win with 2pt conversion.  

Absolutely right decision to play for and kick game winning FG.

[KHAN]

3 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

So, what should probability that Miami can score a TD with no timeouts and 34 seconds be?

 

 

The point is that when the option they chose (that worked perfectly) has such a high probability of success, arguing vehemently for the other choice doesn't make sense.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

absolutely the right thing to do.  He was going to get hit and could have fumbled as well.

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

The game is about winning, not defensive bravado. The percentages favored a kick in that situation so that was the strategy chosen. Why tempt fate with Tyreek Hill ? 

I’m not talking about defensive bravado.  Singletary could have scored easily and given them a 7 point lead which should be insurmountable at that point with Miami having no timeouts.

1 minute ago, KHAN said:

 

 

The point is that when the option they chose (that worked perfectly) has such a high probability of success, arguing vehemently for the other choice doesn't make sense.

My point was that the strategy shows that they don’t trust their defense.  It was the right strategy if they don’t trust the d.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, ArtVandalay said:

Regardless of your thoughts whether he should have scored the TD, it was an absolutely bonehead play to go down short of the first. 

Dolphins had NO TOs. They couldn't stop the clock. I saw no problem there

[OldTimer1960]

4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I would argue far grater than 2%. Maybe only 5 or 10% chance but still way higher than Bass missing. Miami already had a TD on broken coverage once. Plus a FG miss at worst leaves OT. If Miami had scored a TD they could play for win with 2pt conversion.  

Absolutely right decision to play for and kick game winning FG.

That is exactly my point, they don’t trust the defense.

[KHAN]

3 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m not talking about defensive bravado.  Singletary could have scored easily and given them a 7 point lead which should be insurmountable at that point with Miami having no timeouts.

My point was that the strategy shows that they don’t trust their defense.  It was the right strategy if they don’t trust the d.

I understand your point.  I'll just move along now. Merry Christmas.

[Breakout Squad]

13 minutes ago, buffblue said:

It was 100% the right play. The opportunity to run the clock down to zero and kick a very high percentage GW field goal was much more preferrable to giving Miami the ball back. Even in the unlikely event of a miss, the game would still go to OT 

A-men. Thank you. 

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m not talking about defensive bravado.  Singletary could have scored easily and given them a 7 point lead which should be insurmountable at that point with Miami having no timeouts.

Timeouts become less relevant with Hill on the field. He can outrun anyone playing defense in the league. Especially in conditions that were worsening. The kick was the obvious play as it would take place within seconds. Who knows how much worse the weather would have been after the commercial timeouts following a TD? One defender slips and Hill scores. You’re overthinking this. 

[Rochesterfan]

28 minutes ago, KHAN said:

Here's the thing.

 

At first  he was critical of the Bills for not taking the points. Called it "arrogant".

 

Then he criticized Motor for not at least getting the first down. He was corrected by the play by play guy that with only one time out left for Miami that point was totally wrong.

 

He then (and this is the best part) said that it would been better for Miami to pull Motor in to the end zone so they would at least have some time left to try to score. This totally contradicts his first criticism of the Bills.  That's a lot of fail in a very short period of time.

 

 

Survey Says: Mr. Butt Fumble sucks at QB and announcing.

 

Totally agree Sanchez covered the gambit and sounded like an idiot.  
 

He finally got it right at the end - the Dolphins should have tried to drag him to the end zone and tried knocking the ball out.

 

The Ravens did both and almost were rewarded with a Singletary fumble, but the Dolphins are not nearly as well coached.

 

 

[BuffaloBill]

The only tricky tacky thing is that he could have gotten the first down.  It was absolutely the right call.  The fins have way too much speed on offense to give them any chance at a final play in regulation.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

also, whether you agree with the decision or not or not, the execution of McD's orders was perfect