I hope the Bills invest heavily into the offensive line this offseason

[TheBeaneBandit]

18 hours ago, TPS said:

They drafted 2 OTs and an IOL in 2021.

Yeah in hoping for the best territory. Not good enough.

[Dr. Who]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

Everyone knows what this team needs to do in the offseason but the big challenge they are going to have is cap space in terms of trying to go after any impactful FA of note.

 

Also does anyone have faith in Beane to be able to adequately address this in the draft given his woeful history with drafting in the trenches?

 

Don't be surprised if this oline is even worse next year especially if Morse is gone which is highly likely given his contract and latest concussion.

You are like a cooler in a Las Vegas casino who enters a room to destroy any good luck. Enough of your relentless negative juju. Coal in the stocking is too good for you.

Just now, Nextmanup said:

Top priority should be a star No. 2 WR IMO, and then the BULK of assets should be sent toward the OL.

 

We'll probably draft all defensive linemen.

 

 

I think McD will probably want to target a safety. Beane should tell him no.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Everyone knows what this team needs to do in the offseason but the big challenge they are going to have is cap space in terms of trying to go after any impactful FA of note.

 

Also does anyone have faith in Beane to be able to adequately address this in the draft given his woeful history with drafting in the trenches?

 

Don't be surprised if this oline is even worse next year especially if Morse is gone which is highly likely given his contract and latest concussion.

They can free up quite a bit of money.  The question is just if it’s prudent to do so.  
 

Long term backloaded deals for guys like Allen & Edmunds are fine, but we’ve got to be careful with older guys.  
 

I doubt we do this, but we should also consider moving guys before their deals are up.  Looking at Oliver and Davis.  Davis I love as a WR3 on this team, just depends if we can keep him as that.  Oliver is way too hit or miss for me.  Some games he dominates and others you barely notice him… he seems like a luxury at this point, and on a team paying the QB over 40M, I’d gladly sacrifice cap if he was Quinnen Williams … so far, he’s not even close. 
 

Edited December 23, 2022 by SCBills

[metbill]

I know what I want them to do, but we all also know what they WILL do,

DL; S; DL; CB; ST/KR; WR or S

 

The OL signings will come after the first few cuts in the pre-season next year. 

 

We have seen too many wasted early draft picks.  At some point you have to have a 1st or 2nd rounder who is ready to compete every down at this level.

[Roundybout]

C is a massive, massive need. I bet you Morse retires sooner rather than later. 

[MiltonWaddams]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

C is a massive, massive need. I bet you Morse retires sooner rather than later. 

I open TBD every morning with the expectation of finding a “Morse retires” thread. The challenge is that he is likely the lynchpin to any SB hopes AND I never want to see someone suffer from CTE the way that many retired players have.

[MrEpsYtown]

Jack Conklin and Eldgton Jenkins scored big extensions today, so that takes them off the board. 

[GolfandBills]

1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Jack Conklin and Eldgton Jenkins scored big extensions today, so that takes them off the board. 

They’d never be on the board for Beane 

[MrEpsYtown]

46 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

C is a massive, massive need. I bet you Morse retires sooner rather than later. 

I think Morse finishes out his contract, so two more years. But I think he retires after that. 
 

I don’t think that center is a massive need because the presence of Ryan Bates on the roster. I think he is good guard and a really good center. I think we need one high end interior linemen to replace Saffold who has been terrible. See what Jenkins cost with his extension, that upgrade will have to come either by trade or the draft imo. 

[Don Otreply]

On 12/18/2022 at 3:42 PM, Goin Breakdown said:

Would an upgraded Oline be better than upgrading the  WR room?  I'm on the fence. 

O~Line! every plays success revolves around the O~lines success in winning their one elevenths / one on ones, 

[Goin Breakdown]

58 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

O~Line! every plays success revolves around the O~lines success in winning their one elevenths / one on ones, 

Very true. I was thinking more about this. I think I'm with you here. If josh has time, our receivers will have more time to get open/finish routes or simply improvise. 

[Roundybout]

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

I think Morse finishes out his contract, so two more years. But I think he retires after that. 
 

I don’t think that center is a massive need because the presence of Ryan Bates on the roster. I think he is good guard and a really good center. I think we need one high end interior linemen to replace Saffold who has been terrible. See what Jenkins cost with his extension, that upgrade will have to come either by trade or the draft imo. 

 

Tough to say. Six concussions is an awful lot. 

[Senth]

Get me the best Center 1st round!

Then any additional OL worthy of protecting the franchise.

 

[muppy]

On 12/17/2022 at 11:06 PM, Einstein said:

For all the good that Beane has done - and the list is long and great on that front and we are blessed to have him - it would be wonderful if he spent significant resources this off-season on the o-line. Spencer Brown is going to get Allen crushed sooner or later (hopefully not before we find his replacement), and Saffolds best days are long gone. I also question how much longer Morse plays with all his head injuries.

 

And when I say invest in the o-line, I don’t mean old retreads like Saffold and castoffs like Quessenberry. 

I mean high draft picks (first two rounds) and signing top tier free agents. Guys like Terron Armstead, who has been very good for Miami this season after being a top tier free agent at the Tackle position this past offseason. What to do with Dawkins? That’s a great problem to have. And James Daniels, who has been an excellent Guard for the Steelers after signing a 3 year, 26.5M contract in the offseason. Or Austin Corbett, who is on a similar deal.

 

There is some serious talent due to become free agents this offseason (of course some will re-sign with their team), including Elgton Jenkins, Mike McGlinchey, Jack Conclin, and Orlando Brown. The opportunity should be there.

 

Go Bills.

 

 

I think the Bills heavily investing in the OL for 2023 Draft is a LOCK. BPA but all things being equal I'd Love to see a MEAN Nasty UGLY O Lineman drafted early.

[Pete]

OL and receiver and more OL- repeat

[JMM]

I agree, need OL and WR.  HOWEVER, with Poyer possibly gone, Hyde a question mark and Damar likely done, do not be surprised if our first rd pick is a safety. There are several really good ones and they would make sense at our position in the Draft. (Hopefully last pick).

[Dr.Sack]

Free Agency will be equally important 

[dma0034]

1 hour ago, JMM said:

I agree, need OL and WR.  HOWEVER, with Poyer possibly gone, Hyde a question mark and Damar likely done, do not be surprised if our first rd pick is a safety. There are several really good ones and they would make sense at our position in the Draft. (Hopefully last pick).

 

 

I don't think Hamlin is done playing.

[JohnNord]

On 12/18/2022 at 2:06 AM, Einstein said:

For all the good that Beane has done - and the list is long and great on that front and we are blessed to have him - it would be wonderful if he spent significant resources this off-season on the o-line. Spencer Brown is going to get Allen crushed sooner or later (hopefully not before we find his replacement), and Saffolds best days are long gone. I also question how much longer Morse plays with all his head injuries.

 

And when I say invest in the o-line, I don’t mean old retreads like Saffold and castoffs like Quessenberry. 

I mean high draft picks (first two rounds) and signing top tier free agents. Guys like Terron Armstead, who has been very good for Miami this season after being a top tier free agent at the Tackle position this past offseason. What to do with Dawkins? That’s a great problem to have. And James Daniels, who has been an excellent Guard for the Steelers after signing a 3 year, 26.5M contract in the offseason. Or Austin Corbett, who is on a similar deal.

 

There is some serious talent due to become free agents this offseason (of course some will re-sign with their team), including Elgton Jenkins, Mike McGlinchey, Jack Conclin, and Orlando Brown. The opportunity should be there.

 

Go Bills.

 

 

It’s a given they will need to replace Saffold either through FA or the draft. 
 

Brown is the question mark.  He has been inconsistent for nearly 2 seasons…do they fish or cut bait? In the past they have given prospects many chance to succeed.  My guess is they bring in a veteran RT - maybe a small step about a Quessenberry to push him and potentially start if necessary.  

[ArtVandalay]

3 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

It’s a given they will need to replace Saffold either through FA or the draft. 
 

Brown is the question mark.  He has been inconsistent for nearly 2 seasons…do they fish or cut bait? In the past they have given prospects many chance to succeed.  My guess is they bring in a veteran RT - maybe a small step about a Quessenberry to push him and potentially start if necessary.  

The answer here is they need to kick Brown instead to guard and get a new RT.

 

Brown is a beast, strong, nasty, big dude. I think he would play very well at guard if given an offseason to get acclimated.