When did this team forget how to tackle?

[sullim4]

I've seen terrible tackling performances before, but I think the first half tonight took the cake.  It seems like the defensive staff is telling the players to try to punch the ball out rather than make the tackle, and this is costing the team significant yards allowed after contact.  They cannot continue to do this - they will lose to good teams in the playoffs playing defense like this.

 

I see several threads trying to go after Dorsey in this game... but I was a lot more disappointed in the defensive performance, especially in the running game.

[Ya Digg?]

I said to a friend tonight that I would hate to see but actually love to see how many yards teams have gained against the Bills this year after contact. They have to be giving up the most yards after contact and it’s not even close 

[VaMilBill]

Probably around week 7. Ever since the bye, I feel as though we’ve been horrible at tackling. 

[BillsfaninSB]

2020.   It’s been a problem with McDermott teams. 

[gobills404]

Outside of the first 6-8 weeks of this season I don’t think McD has never had a good tackling defense

[benderbender]

I’ll settle for our DBs not helping their WRs catch the ball a la Jefferson

[cgg716]

6 minutes ago, NUT said:

The Bills high D ranking the last few seasons has been a bit of a farce. 3rd & long, can't stop the run when need to. Same broken record for years.

I've been mocked on this board for this take 

[VaMilBill]

7 minutes ago, NUT said:

The Bills high D ranking the last few seasons has been a bit of a farce. 3rd & long, can't stop the run when need to. Same broken record for years.

The third and long issue has really only popped up this season. I don’t really recall it being a factor the last two years. In fact, I think we were the best defense on third down last year. 

[K D]

They aren't allowed to tackle in practice so they form bad habits. If you look closely, they are just hugging the runner up high like they do in practice and then of course they easily break free. You play like you practice. I don't know what the answer is because you can't take them to the ground in practice but you still have to practice good form. 

Edited December 18, 2022 by KDIGGZ

[What a Tuel]

5 minutes ago, cgg716 said:

I've been mocked on this board for this take 

 

As you should be. The idea that the defense isn't good is a farce. Good defenses have bad games. The 49ers, the best defense right now got blown out by not only Kansas City, but also by the Falcons.

[cgg716]

2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

As you should be. The idea that the defense isn't good is a farce. Good defenses have bad games. The 49ers, the best defense right now got blown out by not only Kansas City, but also by the Falcons.

They have NEVER held down a good offense, NEVER. Piling up stats against Zach Wilson doesn't make you any good. That's your misconception 

[Doc Brown]

We've never been a good tackling team under McDermott.  We do a lot else well though.

[What a Tuel]

Just now, cgg716 said:

They have NEVER held down a good offense, NEVER. Piling up stats against Zach Wilson doesn't make you any good. That's your misconception 

 

Held down the Chiefs that score 29.5 points per game to 20 points but ok....

 

[cgg716]

3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Held down the Chiefs that score 29.5 points per game to 20 points but ok....

 

KC holds back. Did the same thing last year and ran us over in January 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I think Hamlin crashes a lot and when he misses the carrier is already into the second level with momentum and our guys just can’t stop them. 

[Malazan]

Thursday, October 20th 5:34:16 PM

[cgg716]

5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Held down the Chiefs that score 29.5 points per game to 20 points but ok....

 

Last year was the best example, gave up 17.5 ppg on D, and still managed to give up 33, 34, and 45 in losses to good teams, with good run games notably. And that doesn't include the 42 to KC. And that defense is still the steel freaking curtain compared to this shitshow 

17 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

As you should be. The idea that the defense isn't good is a farce. Good defenses have bad games. The 49ers, the best defense right now got blown out by not only Kansas City, but also by the Falcons.

Also SF only gave up 28 to the falcons, plenty of times Josh would kill for 28 over the last few years 

[What a Tuel]

Just now, cgg716 said:

KC holds back. Did the same thing last year and ran us over in January 

 

Ok. How about:

 

Jets 20.3 points per game held to 12 points

Patriots 21.2 points per game held to 10 points

Lions 26.8 points per game held to 25 points

Browns 23.1 points per game held to 23 points

Vikings 24 points per game held to 33 points

Jets 20.3 points per game held to 20 points

Packers 20.2 points per game held to 17 points

Steelers 17.5 points per game held to 3 points

Ravens 23.2 points per game held to 20 points

Dolphins 24.3 points per game held to 21 points

Titans 18.5 points per game held to 7 points

Rams 16.8 points per game held to 10 points

[cgg716]

3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Ok. How about:

 

Jets 20.3 points per game held to 12 points

Patriots 21.2 points per game held to 10 points

Lions 26.8 points per game held to 25 points

Browns 23.1 points per game held to 23 points

Vikings 24 points per game held to 33 points

Jets 20.3 points per game held to 20 points

Packers 20.2 points per game held to 17 points

Steelers 17.5 points per game held to 3 points

Ravens 23.2 points per game held to 20 points

Dolphins 24.3 points per game held to 21 points

Titans 18.5 points per game held to 7 points

Rams 16.8 points per game held to 10 points

They're are 3 good offenses on that list, 2 near the averages, one above it. Surely you won't come back to me in January and say...I don't know why they couldn't stop Mahomes, they shut down Kenny Pickett

[ALLEN1QB]

Bring back Rex!!