MrEpsYtown Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, John from Riverside said: I still say that bates could be the long-term replacement here draft a guard I agree with this. It is way easier to find a guard and Bates has tremendous center traits. 4 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mango said: We knew of Morse' price tag, concussion history, and our own cap situation. I have been confused the last two offseasons that we made no effort to get somebody in house as a future replacement. For him and his families sake I hope he hangs them up. Bates himself has said center is where he would prefer to play, so there's that. 2 Quote
Saint Doug Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I still say that bates could be the long-term replacement here draft a guard Draft a center and let him cut his teeth playing guard a couple years. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 12:36 AM, schoolhouserock said: Should have drafted Linderbaum instead of Elam Sounds like a cheese shop order. 4 Quote
Simon Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Draft a center and let him cut his teeth playing guard a couple years. Draft a Tackle in Rnd 1, kick Spencer Brown inside (like they should have done last year), let Bates play Center and find a serviceable Guard on the FA market. 3 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 12:36 AM, schoolhouserock said: Should have drafted Linderbaum instead of Elam "The hell you say!" 🤨 Quote
MJS Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) All the speculation is silly. Just wait and see what happens. We'll know when we know. Edited December 19, 2022 by MJS 3 1 1 Quote
BlazinBill Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 I think Morse is a critical piece to this piece mealed line - but with 6 concussions I want him to hang them up - the information is out there on what this does to you down the road - Please, for yours and your families sake hang it up. Quote
KingBoots8 Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Let’s win him a Lombardi this year so he can go out on top. Love ya Mitch- hope you recover soon 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Mitch should call it a career, as much as I value his incredible contributions to this team on and off the field. He has to protect his ability to have a meaningful life after football for his family and loved ones. Bills fans love this guy for his professionalism and calming influence on the team and Josh. Good luck Mitch, whatever you decide. Quote
K D Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Mitch is 30 years old and looks like he's 50. If he wants a long life he should call it quits. Quote
34-78-83 Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: Draft a Tackle in Rnd 1, kick Spencer Brown inside (like they should have done last year), let Bates play Center and find a serviceable Guard on the FA market. Do you think Brown can get the knee bend and leverage he needs on the inside at his stature? I still think he can develop at RT - if we recall back when players were developed (lol) O-lineman typically took 3 years. With SB being from a tiny program in college and his boatload of athleticism, should we not allow him another season? Tough part of course is you have to let him play out there in order for him to develop 4 1 Quote
mannc Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Simon said: Draft a Tackle in Rnd 1, kick Spencer Brown inside (like they should have done last year), let Bates play Center and find a serviceable Guard on the FA market. I've got a few problems with this. First, the Bills are unlikely to be able to get their hands on a top OT if they are drafting in the late 20s or 30s. Really good plug-and-play guards and centers, on the other hand, are frequently available at that part of the draft. Second, Spencer Brown has spent two years learning how to play tackle in the NFL and he has a lot of the tools you want in a right tackle...are you really going to move him to guard and break in another rookie at such an important and difficult position? Then there's the issue of whether Spencer Brown can even play guard in the NFL at 6'8", with a pretty significant injury history... 2 Quote
Chaos Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Mitch should retire. The Bills should have the goal of having a better Oline than the Chiefs and a better oline for the Bengals next year. Anything short of that as the gaol is malpractice. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Do you think Brown can get the knee bend and leverage he needs on the inside at his stature? I still think he can develop at RT - if we recall back when players were developed (lol) O-lineman typically took 3 years. With SB being from a tiny program in college and his boatload of athleticism, should we not allow him another season? Tough part of course is you have to let him play out there in order for him to develop Brown also lost time with a knee injury and a back problem last year. He is still really green. I hope for the best for Mitch and it's up to him how much more he plays. Lots of folks want Bates as the future center but I prefer a true drafted college center who is trained in the intellectual part of the position. I'm not saying Bates can't, he just spent his college and most of his pro career moving all over the place. Put him at LG where he excels. Draft a RG. 2 OL picks are not too much to ask to protect Josh and let him have time to throw. 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 11:36 PM, schoolhouserock said: Should have drafted Linderbaum instead of Elam If you wanna play "shoulda coulda woulda" how about Creed Humphrey going 2 picks after Boogie Basham? Quote
Beast Posted December 19, 2022 Posted December 19, 2022 Mitch should do what Mitch wants to do. 2 Quote
Simon Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, 34-78-83 said: Do you think Brown can get the knee bend and leverage he needs on the inside at his stature? I still think he can develop at RT - if we recall back when players were developed (lol) O-lineman typically took 3 years. With SB being from a tiny program in college and his boatload of athleticism, should we not allow him another season? Tough part of course is you have to let him play out there in order for him to develop He might have some issues in short yardage packages because he's never going to be the low man, but I think he'd mostly be fine when he's firing off the ball. I've thought from Day 1 that he just doesn't have the feet to play Tackle in this league and I've yet to see anything since which has changed my mind. Putting him at Guard allows him to fight guys in a phone booth, which I think minimizes his greatest weakness and accentuates his greatest strength. The only real potential problem I can see is that his height might occasionally be a problem interfering with passing lanes. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Saint Doug said: Draft a center and let him cut his teeth playing guard a couple years. That is what we did with the last first round pick we drafted at center seem to work out pretty well 1 Quote
DJB Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Beast said: Mitch should do what Mitch wants to do. The question is, what does Mitch want to do. That’s what we are trying to figure out Quote
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