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This entire week here seemed to be the McKenzie is garbage can’t catch festival.  I don’t get the constant burn it and then try to replace it mentality.  Found it much more fulfilling to watch him the underdog have a positive impact on the game tonight than an OBJ rent to own type.  Happy for the whole team for the win. 

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Few things/thoughts:

 

1. Refs - absolutely terrible. They missed PI multiple times in the first half (should have gone against the Bills) and missed obvious clipping against the Dolphins. Both teams got away with holds (whatever let them play). They missed a fairly obvious Off PI on the Dolphins WR on Tre White. Also Josh Allen should have had Intentional Grounding called. That said: the PI on MacKenzie was the correct call

 

2. Bills need OLine help ASAP. It may be the single most important postional need. 1st half: Allen looks unstoppable and has all day to throw; 2nd half: Morse goes out and the Dolphins are in the backfield immediately

 

3.The NFL has to love the Bills and Vikings. Their games are highly entertaining. 

 

4. The bye week for the 1 seed is going to be extremely important. Will the Bills be able to stop the Bengals in a few weeks?

 

5. Once the snow hit the Dolphins looked lost. Allen (Bills) look impressive in cold weather games.

 

6. I hope the Chiefs and Bengals finish 2 and 3

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To the completely idiotic Fish fans saying Tua outplayed Josh.......

 

In the 2 games this year.....

Josh Allen - 704 pass yards, 124 rushing yards, 828 yards total, 6 TD's, 0 INT.

 

Tua - 420 pass yards, 7 rushing yards,  427 yards total, 3 TD's, 0 INT.

 

Tua isn't in Josh's universe.

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3 minutes ago, dma0034 said:

Few things/thoughts:

 

1. Refs - absolutely terrible. They missed PI multiple times in the first half (should have gone against the Bills) and missed obvious clipping against the Dolphins. Both teams got away with holds (whatever let them play). They missed a fairly obvious Off PI on the Dolphins WR on Tre White. Also Josh Allen should have had Intentional Grounding called. That said: the PI on MacKenzie was the correct call

 

2. Bills need OLine help ASAP. It may be the single most important postional need. 1st half: Allen looks unstoppable and has all day to throw; 2nd half: Morse goes out and the Dolphins are in the backfield immediately

 

3.The NFL has to love the Bills and Vikings. Their games are highly entertaining. 

 

4. The bye week for the 1 seed is going to be extremely important. Will the Bills be able to stop the Bengals in a few weeks?

 

5. Once the snow hit the Dolphins looked lost. Allen (Bills) look impressive in cold weather games.

 

6. I hope the Chiefs and Bengals finish 2 and 3

Agree with most honestly -regardi g the intentional grounding - I feel like I heard the announcer say the ball was tipped although I didn't see it get yipped and thought they moved on too quickly 

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21 minutes ago, goober said:

This entire week here seemed to be the McKenzie is garbage can’t catch festival.  I don’t get the constant burn it and then try to replace it mentality.  Found it much more fulfilling to watch him the underdog have a positive impact on the game tonight than an OBJ rent to own type.  Happy for the whole team for the win. 

 

But But But...

McKenzie only had 2 catches on 5 targets!  (never mind that on one of the incompletions, we were Robbed and on the other, he was Mugged and drew the DPI).  No, he isn't a great WR or even a very good WR, but he's not garbage either

 

"Dropsome" Knox, another favorite TBD whipping boy, 6 of 8 for 98 yds

Gabe Davis, 4 of 6 for 58 yds, Solid, especially as a couple of them were over the middle of the field intermediate, where we doubt

 

Gonna be interesting to see how Cole  Beasley's snap count came out.  1 target, 1 reception but I thought I saw him on the field more than I expected

 

Glad to see Quintin Morris and Nyheim Hines get touchdowns.  Morris can run routes and catch the ball, wish we'd use him more.

 

I was not happy with Stefon Diggs tantrum "I want the ball" on the one McKenzie target that was a good PBU.  It's true that he was more open at one point in the play, but not sure it was clear he'd be able to reverse and come open at the point where Josh had to throw.  That is NOT a good look, especially when he kept it up for a while on the sideline.  I normally wouldn't  comment on 5 of 9 receptions for 60 yds, because some of them were clutch and he's our best WR bar none  - but if you want to have a tantrum when you aren't targeted, then you better have a 3rd gear to run under the deep ball and make a couple of those other contested catches.

 

Edit: elsewhere it was pointed out, whether Diggs was targeted or McKenzie, whether they caught it or didn't, the ball was coming back on a holding penalty (declined on the incompletion).  Which makes Diggs temper tantrum all the more dumbass.

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Pros:

32 Points

 

Josh Allen

 

Really didn’t give up a ton of DE pressures like the first game
 

The big impact in half number 2 was the pick up in secondary play of Elam, Tre, and Johnson. Maybe good ‘ol Dane Jackson will finally see some reduced snaps. 


Cons: 

I think this week should all be about tackling fundamental drills.even coming into the games I heard we were in the top 10 in missed tackles. It’s becoming a major problem. 
 

Gabe Davis is still not threatening anyone deep anymore. 
 

Not forcing turnovers.

 

If you play man coverage, you need much better bump technique from our corners. 

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1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

But But But...

McKenzie only had 2 catches on 5 targets!  (never mind that on one of the incompletions, we were Robbed and on the other, he was Mugged and drew the DPI).  No, he isn't a great WR or even a very good WR, but he's not garbage either

 

On the 3rd incompletion, the Bills had been called for a hold, so even if McKenzie had caught the pass, it would have been come back anyway.

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