Kyler Murray - Torn ACL Confirmed

[Simon]

50 minutes ago, Epstein's Mother said:

 

He probably won't though.  That clause was removed...

 

He might not know that if he didn't read it

[msw2112]

3 hours ago, H2o said:

He didn't lose his opportunity. His marriage to the Cardinals will last until at least 2026 because of that contract they handed him. 

 

I should clarify.  He has lost his opportunity to PLAY from now until he is recovered from the ACL injury and back on the field.  He certainly did not lose his opportunity to GET PAID.

 

Even pre-injury, the contract the Cardinals game him was terrible, but they had backed themselves into a corner when they drafted him #1 and made him the leader and focal point of their team.  You can't NOT pay your franchise QB and expect to have fans in the seats, but it was obvious to many (including me and many of our comrades on this board) that the return on this investment by the Cardinals was not going to be a good one.  The team went all-in on Murray, Kingsbury and Kiem and will regret it for years to come.  The Cardinals are an organization like the Bills used to be.  Would it be diplomatic to use the term "clown show?"  I can't state enough how happy I am that the Bills have competent management in place.

Edited December 13, 2022 by msw2112

[ghostwriter]

This is terrible for him. He’s a small QB who likes to scramble.

[Airseven]

34 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I hope Murray has a speedy recovery, don’t wish injury on anyone (I have yelled “rip his head off!” occasionally, but that was directed at Brady). What happens to that franchise? Murray will be out most on next year and has a big long term contract. Kingsbury is signed through 2027. Do they eat his contract? What a mess.

 

He'll likely be back in October. They'll roll with McCoy who's very popular. Cardinals need to focus on their OL and allow the skill positions to settle into place (just like another team I know). 

[co_springs_billsfan]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

230 million dollar contract 165 mil guaranteed 

I believe he is now the highest paid Call of Duty player in the world

[Rocky Landing]

This should be a cautionary tale for Josh Allen. At 250 lbs, is knees are going to take a helluva lot more pounding than pip-squeak Kyler Murray.

[Saxum]

Good news is Murray will not need to spend time on playbook but can play video games all he wants.

 

Don Marino got into commercials which lead to movie spots when he was injured.

Maybe Murray can go into professional gaming.

[klos63]

5 hours ago, msw2112 said:

I am not a Murray fan.  I more or less despise him.  That said, I wish him a speedy recovery.  If he worked his way out of the NFL with poor play or a bad attitude, I would be fine with that, but I hate to see a guy lose his opportunity due to an injury and an injury that occurred while he wasn't doing anything that would be remotely considered risky or stupid.

Man, what did he do to you to make you despise him? I can't think of anyone I despise.

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

6 hours ago, Utah John said:

With the injury so late in the season, it's likely that Murray won't return until just before the 2023 playoffs.  Which the Cardinals without him won't get to anyway.  It'll be 2024 before he can play a full season.  What a shame for him, the team, and the city.

His lack of availability may lead them to bail on the 2023 season, shed some veteran salaries, and undertake a limited rebuild.  I think they will need a better bridge QB than McCoy.  There will be some QB's looking for a home next season, so AZ should have some options.  Overall, it's a bad time to be a Cards fan.  Things at a franchise can flip from promising to a dumpster fire at the blink of an eye.  We all need to enjoy the Bills and their success because it can disappear quickly.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

With all the quarterback injuries, and the success of Brock Purdy in San Fran (7th rd Mr Irrelevant), does Chad Kelly get another look in the NFL?

[The Wiz]

6 hours ago, Simon said:

 

He might not know that if he didn't read it

I'm sure he got the note in his lunchbox.

[Locomark]

5 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

This should be a cautionary tale for Josh Allen. At 250 lbs, is knees are going to take a helluva lot more pounding than pip-squeak Kyler Murray.

Every runner and NFL player can injure a knee on every play. Having torn all 3 of the major knee ligaments at once , the Brady “terrible triad” injury , I can tell you that no player is immune from it but the biggest protection from it is the muscle groupings in your legs and mid section. So your assertion that a player like Allen is as susceptible as Murray are wrong. Smaller guys like Murray and Lamar have much more probability of tearing them then guys with tree trunk bodies like Josh or Herbert. Much more stabilization in all of the muscle groups surrounding the joint and waist. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Locomark

[CorkScrewHill]

Injured December 12, diagnosed with ACL tear on December 13th .. surgery on January 4.  What is the likelihood that the best QBs in the league, Mahomes, Burrow, JA17 wait 3+ weeks to get this surgery? I am thinking 0.0%.

 

He just does not seem to be focused on being the best he can be and doesn't seem to care to much for what is best for the team.  Maybe there was some extenuating circumstances .. just doesn't smell right.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cardinals-kyler-murray-undergoes-successful-surgery-reportedly-needed-acl-reconstruction-and-meniscus-repair/ar-AA15YSFa

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Injured December 12, diagnosed with ACL tear on December 13th .. surgery on January 4.  What is the likelihood that the best QBs in the league, Mahomes, Burrow, JA17 wait 3+ weeks to get this surgery? I am thinking 0.0%.

 

He just does not seem to be focused on being the best he can be and doesn't seem to care to much for what is best for the team.  Maybe there was some extenuating circumstances .. just doesn't smell right.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cardinals-kyler-murray-undergoes-successful-surgery-reportedly-needed-acl-reconstruction-and-meniscus-repair/ar-AA15YSFa

I believe that Edelman waited around the same amount of time to get his done. I believe it depends on the amount of swelling. Either way, I don't believe Murray really cares about football. He just wanted his big $$$ contract and now he's set. He may miss the entirety of next year. If he does come back next season, he won't be the same hobbit running around like he did before.  

[Manther]

19 minutes ago, H2o said:

I believe that Edelman waited around the same amount of time to get his done. I believe it depends on the amount of swelling. Either way, I don't believe Murray really cares about football. He just wanted his big $$$ contract and now he's set. He may miss the entirety of next year. If he does come back next season, he won't be the same hobbit running around like he did before.  

Agreed on the swelling.  I tore both my ACL's in separate hockey seasons.  The first time it was ACL, MCL and meniscus with a lot of swelling.  I waited 3 weeks for surgery.  The 2nd time and other knee was just ACL with little swelling and surgery was in a week.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Captain Hindsight]

32 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Injured December 12, diagnosed with ACL tear on December 13th .. surgery on January 4.  What is the likelihood that the best QBs in the league, Mahomes, Burrow, JA17 wait 3+ weeks to get this surgery? I am thinking 0.0%.

 

He just does not seem to be focused on being the best he can be and doesn't seem to care to much for what is best for the team.  Maybe there was some extenuating circumstances .. just doesn't smell right.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cardinals-kyler-murray-undergoes-successful-surgery-reportedly-needed-acl-reconstruction-and-meniscus-repair/ar-AA15YSFa

It has to do with the swelling associated with the injury. That isnt a crazy timeline to get ACL surgery 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

"I got this neat new controller AND a new 'gaming chair' for Christmas!"

[Doc]

Yeah, I'd figure it's because of some other issue.  And let's face it, he'll miss most of the season so 2 more games played at the end of next season isn't going to help his team any.

[BillsfaninSB]

18 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

It has to do with the swelling associated with the injury. That isnt a crazy timeline to get ACL surgery 

Holliday season may have been a factor as well.  Desired surgeon might not have been available by the time the swelling went down.