Locomark Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) This is all about the fact that they know Gentry is not NFL material, that Crowder appears not likely to play this year, and that Kumerow may not be back and isn’t much of a weapon even if he was. They want insurance for the playoffs so why not have Brown and Beasley here since Josh trusts them. They are cheap and have some chemistry. I have fairly limited expectations of both and think they will be limited snap situational guys at first. It will also depend on their blocking. The key for why guys like Elam and Shakir aren’t getting snaps is likely missed assignments, blocks/tackles and they won’t tolerate that in the playoffs. Edited December 14, 2022 by Locomark 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, muppy said: Upon reflection I think having Cole Beasley back and being the experienced slot WR may pay dividends in helping a guy like Shakir develop HIS game moving forward. The final test being who will stick after next years Training camp. I actually wondered the exact same thing - the Bills in the past have had gains by bringing in a veteran who can elevate the other players' games. Think Diggs (elevated the entire WR room including Brown Beasley Davis and McKenzie); Von Miller (appears to have elevated Rousseau, Epenesa, Basham, and Lawson). It's possible they're hoping Beasley can jump-start Shakir's slot game but also perhaps bridge a gap between how McKenzie is seeing the field/the defense and how Josh is seeing McKenzie's routes, in addition to being available as the #5 WR on gameday. 1 hour ago, Locomark said: This is all about the fact that they know Gentry is not NFL material, that Crowder appears not likely to play this year, and that Kumerow may not be back and isn’t much of a weapon even if he was. They want insurance for the playoffs so why not have Brown and Beasley here since Josh trusts them. They are cheap and have some chemistry. I have fairly limited expectations of both and think they will be limited snap situational guys at first. It will also depend on their blocking. The key for why guys like Elam and Shakir aren’t getting snaps is likely missed assignments, blocks/tackles and they won’t tolerate that in the playoffs. By George I think he's got it. Even if both Kumerow and Crowder do manage to return for the playoffs, the Bills have 4 tough games to play in order to GET to the playoffs. They want to have 5 (reasonably) healthy wide receivers on the active roster for those games. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 10:32 PM, Niagara Dude said: Bills Mafia Justin Romano · Just now · Cole Beasley is signing with the Bills. He flew into buffalo this morning. Not sure if he will play this week. Source: I know a family member of his. Id prefer not to say who. He better play this week, if baker Mayfield can do it so can Beasley. McDermott needs not to be so conservative with new players like Hines. 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 I'm glad. Sure hands and a deft eye for soft spots in zone. Is he washed? Sure. But I bet he's wiley enough to help convert a half dozen 3rd downs. 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 Hopefully McBeane realize WR is priority this offseason and get or draft elite talent WRs and not hope late rounders can be great. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Hopefully McBeane realize WR is priority this offseason and get or draft elite talent WRs and not hope late rounders can be great. Ya know, I don’t want to hijack this thread, but we need to have a serious discussion about our ‘22 Draft class. Not a single starter 14 weeks in and some pics have been cut. Did Daboll & Shoen raid us dry? Until this year, we added viable starting talent from the Draft. This year, nothing to date. 😮 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Ya know, I don’t want to hijack this thread, but we need to have a serious discussion about our ‘22 Draft class. Not a single starter 14 weeks in and some pics have been cut. Did Daboll & Shoen raid us dry? Until this year, we added viable starting talent from the Draft. This year, nothing to date. 😮 Its hard roster to crack but we have had some contributions, especially the corners who have started, but what we really needed was WRs and we only drafted Shakir. Edited December 14, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian 1 Quote
AlfaBill Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 7 hours ago, NewEra said: I didn’t say he looked finished—- but I definitely thought his play dropped off dramatically. Maybe all this time off allowed his body to heal up and he’s got some juice. i like the pickup. It makes total sense. We’ve missed him Sorry I meant to quote the poster that you were quoting who said Cole was washed. 4 hours ago, muppy said: Upon reflection I think having Cole Beasley back and being the experienced slot WR may pay dividends in helping a guy like Shakir develop HIS game moving forward. The final test being who will stick after next years Training camp. Who cares about Shakir right now? It’s about the SB! 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 Is it new or unique? I don’t ever recall so many small scale tweaks to a roster thru a season. Are other teams doing this? I know PS rules are enabling some. It’s literally impossible to track all the season’s Bills actions. Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) I think it’s a lot about trust here as well. You can almost see it that between Gabe/McKenzie and Knox, Josh almost looks hesitant. Like “is this guy going to catch the ball if I hit him in the hands with it?” Diggs obviously the trust is there but the other guys are rightfully questionable. Beasley was incredibly reliable and so was John Brown on a smaller scale. People were so fast to start criticizing Beasley last year. It was almost like the Vax thing created an environment where anything that was less then perfect was going to get put under a microscope. Thats a shame because he was a very productive player. I’m not sure what people wanted from the guy, I kept hearing Schopp complain about his yards per target and yards after catch going down….that had more to do with Josh then anything. The guy is a get to the sticks, safety blanket with sure hands. The Bills aren’t even calling drag routes or pick plays, what do people expect the slot WR to do? The guy is getting to the yard to gain and showing Josh is chest. When you are sitting in the zone like that and Defenses are closing in behind you where are you supposed to go? As long as he’s still able to catch the ball we are going to love having him back. He’s going to still know how to get open. In those tiny underneath routes he’s almost impossible to cover in that space. If people are expecting the guy to have 12-15 yards per catch then they just aren’t understanding the spacing of this offense. We have other guys to do that. Edited December 14, 2022 by Brianmoorman4jesus 2 Quote
stevestojan Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 I for one am just really excited for the return of the high pitched “we love you Josh Allen” before the team takes the field. Might be what Josh has been missing. 1 2 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Beck Water said: Josh's buddy Tanner Gentry IMO, this is the problem. This is a football team, not a summer camp. Football players are needed, not friends. Same with Knox. 1 3 Quote
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Ugh....just when you thought signing John Brown was desperate the Bills go and do this. We are so devoid of reliable and talented receivers that we bring back these two. Bills are laughable again. Edited December 14, 2022 by BIGFOOTspaceman 1 1 1 5 Quote
Irv Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 How did Buffalo get the rights to Beasley? I don’t understand how Tampa couldn’t lay claim to him. 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Irv said: How did Buffalo get the rights to Beasley? I don’t understand how Tampa couldn’t lay claim to him. Tampa terminated his contract when he “retired.” 2 Quote
Realist Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Ya know, I don’t want to hijack this thread, but we need to have a serious discussion about our ‘22 Draft class. Not a single starter 14 weeks in and some pics have been cut. Did Daboll & Shoen raid us dry? Until this year, we added viable starting talent from the Draft. This year, nothing to date. 😮 I don't think this draft was meant to get starters. Bills were pretty much set at most positions, this draft was purely for backups that eventually become starters and role players. When a team is good it's hard to oust one of the top guys. 1 Quote
vincec Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Irv said: How did Buffalo get the rights to Beasley? I don’t understand how Tampa couldn’t lay claim to him. Yeah, I'm sure it would have been a real dogfight to get his rights. 3 minutes ago, Realist said: I don't think this draft was meant to get starters. Bills were pretty much set at most positions, this draft was purely for backups that eventually become starters and role players. When a team is good it's hard to oust one of the top guys. I think Elam was supposed to be a starter. Didn't work out that way. And I don't think it's because Jackson has been playing lights out either. But of course, he's a rookie, so it's not the end of the world. Edited December 14, 2022 by vincec 1 Quote
f0neguy Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 Sure, no starters at this time. But I expect Elam, Cook, Shakir, Benford, and possibly Anderson to step up next season. Beane is building long term. 1 Quote
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