Updated Beasley signing to practice squad

[Chandler#81]

 

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

This very likely isn't a Super Bowl winning move but I feel like something had to be done. McKenzie isn't/wasn't the answer. Plus maybe now this allows him to play a role he's a better fit for. I would have liked to see more Shakir but it's crunch time so if JA didn't feel like he was ready then you don't really have time to experiment with him. Clearly everyone (Bills, Cowboys, Giants) is out on Odell at this point Like I said above, if Beasley goes for 2/12 but moves the chains on a crucial 3rd down, then this is all worth it. It's even better if Beasley actually becomes a semi-factor out of the slot and you can't play two high safeties at all times. Maybe Davis gets open downfield a little more if that happens. I think between this and hopefully running the ball more consistently, you are putting Diggs and Davis in a better chance to succeed. 

 

 

You have...5 posts.

 

My goodness if even less than half of them in the future are like this you are a benefit to this Board.  

 

Well said, Sir. 

 

 

Edited December 13, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts

[34-78-83]

2 hours ago, Rico said:

Poor Lil Dummy.  

Not really. He'll still be out there, and will be of value to the team...just maybe (hopefully) not so much in clutch type situations. We do run 4 and 5 wide at times. A lot of times.

[Mark92]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

You know for most of the season they averaged the most yards per drive in the NFL and are currently 2nd right? We also have the fewest punts in the NFL.  I know we have ridiculous and impossible to meet standards but let's give it a rest with this type of silliness.

You know they have done all of that with McKenzie dropping EVERYTHING.  It's not silly to expect an NFL receiver to be able to catch a 7 yard pass and or get some yards after said catch.  It's also not unreasonable to expect this high powered offense to stop getting them selves in 3rd and hope situations 4 times on an 80 yard drive.  There is an issue here.  Yes, we are spoiled as compared to the past 25 years but it's ok to point out flaws.  

[BullBuchanan]

50 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

And then blew out his ACL for the 2nd time and hasnt played in a game since?  Yes, that guy.

And? ACLs are basically routine repairs at this point. Yes, the rehab takes a long time to come back from, but most players make it back. It isn't 1982.

[YoloinOhio]

38 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

Beane bringing in another washed up has been just because it's a guy that Beane is familiar with. 

 

You can go out there and find a better UDFA than Beasley or ***** a guy like Kumerow off a PS. 

 

This is not a team that needs veteran leadership. If, indeed, Beasley is a "leader" at anything other than mouthing off on twitter. 

 

Edit: I used a synonym for "grab" that this site censored. Didn't realize it was banned lol

It’s more about what Allen and Dorsey are familiar with. Picking up a street UDFA or a guy off the PS who doesn’t know the offense and had never caught a pass from Josh to see if they can play the role might be a solution in June or July. Not with 3 weeks to go until the playoffs. 

[HOUSE]

48 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

He also had a massive drop in play.  Clearly the Packers would have looked passed the COVID comments, and they didnt

 

The Packers have been passing up on players all year. Doesn't mean much

[MAJBobby]

9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Dude!  I am not saying OBJ is never playing football again.   I am saying that when he comes back I dont expect him to be as productive as he was, even the production he had when he came back from his last injury which was essentially borderline #3.    He has blown out the same knee twice in the last two years.  If that doesnt concern you in the least, fine, so be it.   If you dont think the Bills signing two players at the same position as OBJ plays in the days after he visited the team, fine.  I completely disagree with you.      My thought is they are way more likely to sign either Beasley or Brown to the active roster this year than they are to sign another wideout, especially one who doesnt know the offense, hasnt played with Josh before, and is coming off two serious injuries to the same knee in the last 26 months.

So now saying all that do you expect Beasley to be as productive as last year?  See you want to ignore and talk hyperbole when it comes to OBJ (who was on track to be the SB MVP, I would say that is pretty productive and not a #3

10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

You conveniently left out the economics of the situation.  A huge factor in moving on from both Brown and Beas was the money.

 

Another reason for excitement is that in the older players, they are more affected by the compound affects of the beatings they take.  Older players as a rule recover slower.  These are fresh veterans we are getting back for the stretch run.

Economics would fall into the "have all the information" wouldnt it.  

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I don't want to overstate the value of this.

 

I do not see this as a long term remarriage. I legit think that the Bills will try something else to fill the role this off-season. I stand by the decision to cut him. He wasn't worth the cap hit and he was clearly unhappy about something because he wanted a trade. 

 

This is one of those situations where a marriage falls apart and each side starts seeing other people only to find out the grass isn't as green on the other side. 

 

The Bills don't have a way to consistently keep drives going when teams move to bracket coverage on Diggs. Beasley has learned what the rest of the league values him at.

 

And I feel dirty saying this, but I think this helps our Super Bowl chances more than rolling the dice on OBJ at this point. 

 

 

 

 

 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Have you been watching Bills football the last 4 seasons?  Beas brings a special skill set, breaking down zone coverage's, that we badly miss.  There is no one available on a practice squad that brings Beasley's special set of skills:  like knowing the O, knowing Allen, having great hands and is sneaky good at finding the open space in a zone.

 

 

 

Did you watch 2021 Cole Beasley when his production took a nose dive as he got older and injured ? He looked washed in 2021 playing for us, and he looked worse on the Bucs in 2022. 

 

Beasley might have some familiarity with the playbook, but he never played in Dorsey's system. His rapport with Allen has some value, but not enough to make up for his physical deficiencies.  

[MAJBobby]

15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Have you been watching Bills football the last 4 seasons?  Beas brings a special skill set, breaking down zone coverage's, that we badly miss.  There is no one available on a practice squad that brings Beasley's special set of skills:  like knowing the O, knowing Allen, having great hands and is sneaky good at finding the open space in a zone.

 

 

Doesnt matter, he was CUT after those 4 seasons, so evidently those special set of skills diminished or not as effective as you think.  

 

He didnt have those special skills this year either did he?

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

So now saying all that do you expect Beasley to be as productive as last year?  See you want to ignore and talk hyperbole when it comes to OBJ (who was on track to be the SB MVP, I would say that is pretty productive and not a #3

Economics would fall into the "have all the information" wouldnt it.  

Pointing to one game and allowing it to define his entire season is the definition of hyperbolic. 

 

Time will tell which one of us is correct.    Maybe its neither of us.

[H2o]

I think it's fair to say that a majority of the people incessantly whining about this signing are doing so solely on the reasoning of their personal vendettas they have against the guy. He was a very good football player for this team, his rapport with Josh is 2nd to none except Diggs, and if healthy/in shape will be a valuable asset to this team in our Playoff run. 

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

I don't want to overstate the value of this.

 

I do not see this as a long term remarriage. I legit think that the Bills will try something else to fill the role this off-season. I stand by the decision to cut him. He wasn't worth the cap hit and he was clearly unhappy about something because he wanted a trade. 

 

This is one of those situations where a marriage falls apart and each side starts seeing other people only to find out the grass isn't as green on the other side. 

 

The Bills don't have a way to consistently keep drives going when teams move to bracket coverage on Diggs. Beasley has learned what the rest of the league values him at.

 

And I feel dirty saying this, but I think this helps our Super Bowl chances more than rolling the dice on OBJ at this point. 

 

 

 

 

 

If they don't why are they the second best team in the NFL on third down?

[Since1981]

Not much downside here (please stay off twitter dude).

He is NOT banged up, VERY rested, JA familiar.

What's the worst that can happen? He catches a few balls?

[newcam2012]

5 hours ago, Malazan said:

 

..for 17 yards.. he's not the same guy that took every short pass for 8+ yards in 2020

I think it's fair to say he's not the 2020 Beasley. I don't think any of us or the Bills' brass thinks so either. The real question is can he help the team? Be a more reliable 3rd down receiver than McKenzie. Can he positively contribute? Obviously, the Bills think so or think it's worth a shot. Nothing to lose really just like the Smoke pick up. At this point, and little edge can make a difference. 

Edited December 13, 2022 by newcam2012

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I dont think Beane messed up the WR room. How could he know after last year and the KC game that Davis would regress so badly, and that Crowder would break an ankle?

 

This is a move due to the players not developing and doing their part.

 

If half this board knew we didn't do enough to address the WR room this off-season, I feel like Beane should've known.

 

The biggest debate we had was where is a third competent outside WR on a pass heavy offense?  We still don't have that. 

 

Now, I do think it's armchair QB'ing to criticize the Beasley/Crowder/McKenzie situation.  Beasley was owed way more than he was worth as a player for a full season.  Crowder came in cheaper, could do much of the same things, but.. injury prone.  Injuries got him, McKenzie hasn't made the jump from gadget to starting slot and it's been a mess. 

 

I won't criticize Beane for his handling of the slot wr position... it just didn't work.. but most of us knew we were lacking at WR heading into the season.  It was debated ad nauseum here. 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, H2o said:

I think it's fair to say that a majority of the people incessantly whining about this signing are doing so solely on the reasoning of their personal vendettas they have against the guy. He was a very good football player for this team, his rapport with Josh is 2nd to none except Diggs, and if healthy/in shape will be a valuable asset to this team in our Playoff run. 

Alot of was and ifs in that sentence.

 

I go back to my initial take

 

Dont hate it

 

Most probable outcome Beasley is washed and isnt any more productive than we have.

Best Case outcome after no hitting for a year maybe he can turn back the clock and give us 7 games in 2020 form

[uticaclub]

3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Did you watch 2021 Cole Beasley when his production took a nose dive as he got older and injured ? He looked washed in 2021 playing for us, and he looked worse on the Bucs in 2022. 

 

Beasley might have some familiarity with the playbook, but he never played in Dorsey's system. His rapport with Allen has some value, but not enough to make up for his physical deficiencies.  

I was ready to move on for football reasons after last year, but I have 0 confidence in any receiver not named Diggs making a play on 3rd & short. Can't be any worse than what we've been seeing.

[Alphadawg7]

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