Beck Water Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Ok, with all due respect, you really don't think Beasley and Allen couldn't pick up where they left off? They could if Beasley were where he left off in November of 2020 1 Quote
Dan Darragh Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I guess between this and the Cowboys dusting off TY Hilton, OBJ isnt coming back this year or maybe ever. He needs to be ready to play Saturday, which is basically a mini playoff game. Calm down Sparky Quote
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: Beane ****ed up. We just have to hope that these moves mean he recognizes it. There’s no doubt he realizes it Quote
wppete Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: He's a clown and a bum... you can cheer this fool all you want, but not me... there is a reason why he retired. I hope he does nothing Why would you say that? He was nothing but a productive player for this team. Apart from Diggs Josh favourite and most productive target in his career. This is an amazing move! 1 Quote
Success Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 This isn't some marginal move - he's a great 3rd down guy. This will change the offense. Quote
nucci Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I've never rooted for a Buffalo Bills player to fail... until now. We don't need this clown now nor in the future. I don't care how many of you back this loudmouth bum. I don't agree with him on stuff but I also don't care. We need a slot receiver and I hope he can play well. 1 Quote
klos63 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: I think Beasley is still washed. But maybe not having a full season of wear and tear in him he can produce. clearly though tells me Bills is desperation mode to get ANY production out of the slot for this offense and the playoff run I think he was still a little banged up last season. Played the previous playoff against the Chiefs with a broken leg, he never looked fully recovered. Hopefully that was the issue and not age. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mark92 said: This team would be 12-1 right now if McKenzie could catch a ball. He cost us week #3 to the dolphins and week #9 to the Jets. Something has been off with this offense for the better part of the season. They can't keep drives going so defenses can play tough on the deep passes and it shuts us down. The Bills window is open right f@$$ing now and they need to figure this out. I am pleased they are trying. Beas may or may not be "washed" - we'll find out soon. His body has had plenty of time to heal and rest up. Last season he was avoiding contact in the middle of the field, which is where slot receivers make their money. It's possible he just needed to step away from the game to get his body right. I wasn't a fan of his Twitter antics but he never did anything on social media like what McKenzie did this week - that Tweet reflected such a staggering lack of accountability it would not surprise me if he was cut this week. McKenzie is an unaccountable CLOWN who can't catch a football and doesn't show up for his teammates. He should be off the roster pronto. Beas is a weird dude but for the most part he was a great teammate when he wasn't drawing lines in the sand. But let's be honest, signing Brown and Beas in December is basically like buying scratch-off tickets with your final paycheck, with the rent about to be due. It's desperation time after a terrible offseason of underinvestment in the offense. It's an admission of defeat by Brandon Beane. Would not shock me if they've reached out to Darryl Williams as well. Remember - this is a much-hyped pro personnel department; they are much better at media placements than actually finding value in the FA market. It should NOT be this hard to find complementary skill assets like a slot receiver, backup tight ends, a running back who can catch the ball out of the backfield, a league-average guard - the FA market is littered with these guys but Beane and his crew continue to strike out and have resorted to bringing back the corpses of John Brown and Cole Beasley (after trotting out Emmanuel Sanders' corpse last season). This is a BAD LOOK for the front office that they had to build a bridge to a retired Cole Beasley in mid-December as a "solution" to their problems on offense. Unacceptable. But if Beas can squeeze six weeks of juice out of that old lemon, sign me up. Edited December 13, 2022 by Coach Tuesday 1 1 1 1 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: The fact they need to sign these veteran WR’s in December is really an indictment of the personnel department (Beane & co), Dorsey, and players like Gabe Davis but especially Isaiah McKenzie. The Bills doubled down that last year’s WR talent would improve. They’ve mostly been the same players as they were last year in a reserve role. Whose fault is that? Dorsey for not utilizing them properly? The WR’s themselves? It were they just never starting caliber to begin with? I think the fact the Bills lead the league in drops answers that question for the most part. 1 Quote
eball Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I think Beasley is still washed. But maybe not having a full season of wear and tear in him he can produce. clearly though tells me Bills is desperation mode to get ANY production out of the slot for this offense and the playoff run Gotta fix the slot problem. I was not a guy pounding the pavement for this move, but at least you'd think he is healthy...and there is no questioning the connection he had with Josh. Still think a healthy Crowder would fix our issues... 1 1 Quote
Dan Darragh Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brueggs said: I wasn't long ago that half of the fans were saying McKenzie was better because he had one good game. It always seems to be the same people that get it wrong time after time. McKenzie has been dining out for a long time on his big game against NE last year. I've long since stopped holding my breath for another performance like that out of him. Quote
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 I think this staff really puts a lot of belief in it's own players to ascend their game to another level. I know many people on the board questioned what we really did to improve this offense at the beginning of this year. I think I was more optimistic than anything but For what ever reasons Gabe just hasn't been what we hoped. Crowder was signed but was often injured prior to coming here and Mckenzie, well maybe the game in NE last year blinded them into thinking he could do this week in and week out. Right now we are not asking Beasley to play a whole season, just a stretch run/playoffs. Also at least his leg isn't broken! I am going into this thinking what game he has left still might be better than what Mckenzie can offer. Beane has some work to do for 2023. 2 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: I think we could certainly use the personnel better than we have been. The middle of the field is hardly ever used by Dorsey. Teams have caught on. Not just that, but the Hines usage especially is baffling to me. For years we’ve watched ways that teams can draw up a few plays for a specific gadget player - don’t see much of this in Buffalo despite having players like Hines, McKenzie, Shakir, and Brown - all who could be good for a screen or special play Quote
DaggersEOD Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: The fact they need to sign these veteran WR’s in December is really an indictment of the personnel department (Beane & co), Dorsey, and players like Gabe Davis but especially Isaiah McKenzie. The Bills doubled down that last year’s WR talent would improve. They’ve mostly been the same players as they were last year in a reserve role. Whose fault is that? Dorsey for not utilizing them properly? The WR’s themselves? It were they just never starting caliber to begin with? I honestly thought we had a super deep WR room full of young talent when the year started, and I don’t think I was alone. It just didn’t pan out that way for some reason. I’m ok with them not resigning themselves to the cards they had in hand and getting some of the old reliable card back. Not ideal in any way, but I understand the thought process in the beginning of the year and am ok with the moves they’ve made these past two weeks (Brown/Beas) 1 Quote
clayboy54 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think McKenzie is a good gadget player and that's it. I think he needs to start hanging out with Kevin Hart. He can be a much better comedian than he is as a munchkin slot receiver. Quote
ddaryl Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 This is how bad McKenzie / Davis have been in the consistency department. I think this signing screams this 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Now imagine hearing you had the second ranked offense and had scored more points than last year. But everyone knows the offense isn't at the level it was at earlier in the season. We can see it, plain as day. Allen is masking a lot of issues. 2 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, eball said: Gotta fix the slot problem. I was not a guy pounding the pavement for this move, but at least you'd think he is healthy...and there is no questioning the connection he had with Josh. Still think a healthy Crowder would fix our issues... I dont hate it. At the end of the day the Bills likely work their way into the playoffs without Beasley or Brown being signed into the 53, and crowder comes back (I would think that is how they are thinking at this point). But then again who knows I just need someone to step up out of that slot and be dependable for the next 7 games is all. 1 1 Quote
klos63 Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beas may or may not be "washed" - we'll find out soon. His body has had plenty of time to heal and rest up. Last season he was avoiding contact in the middle of the field, which is where slot receivers make their money. It's possible he just needed to step away from the game to get his body right. I wasn't a fan of his Twitter antics but he never did anything on social media like what McKenzie did this week - that Tweet reflected such a staggering lack of accountability it would not surprise me if he was cut this week. McKenzie is an unaccountable CLOWN who can't catch a football and doesn't show up for his teammates. He should be off the roster pronto. Beas is a weird dude but for the most part he was a great teammate when he wasn't drawing lines in the sand. But let's be honest, signing Brown and Beas in December is basically like buying scratch-off tickets with your final paycheck, with the rent about to be due. It's desperation time after a terrible offseason of underinvestment in the offense. It's an admission of defeat by Brandon Beane. Would not shock me if they've reached out to Darryl Williams as well. Remember - this is a much-hyped pro personnel department; they are much better at media placements than actually finding value in the FA market. It should NOT be this hard to find complementary skill assets like a slot receiver, backup tight ends, a running back who can catch the ball out of the backfield - the FA market is littered with these guys but Beane and his crew continue to strike out and have resorted to bringing back the corpses of John Brown and Cole Beasley (after trotting out Emmanuel Sanders' corpse last season). This is a BAD LOOK for the front office that they had to build a bridge to a retired Cole Beasley in mid-December as a "solution" to their problems on offense. Unacceptable. But if Beas can squeeze six weeks of juice out of that old lemon, sign me up. We signed Crowder to replace Beasley, that would have been solid if not for his injury. We traded for Hines, and drafted Cook, both are capable of catching the ball out of the backfield. Those were logical moves to make. Who would you have acquired instead? 5 1 Quote
Brueggs Posted December 13, 2022 Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: McKenzie has been dining out for a long time on his big game against NE last year. I've long since stopped holding my breath for another performance like that out of him. For sure. That was a great game he had, and obviously not something that could happen every week, but he has a lot of mistakes and drops that have been costly. 1 Quote
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