BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Might be a terrible take to some, but this is starting to remind me of the raiders back in 17 when Carr got Musgrave booted out of a job because he wanted his friend Downing to be his OC and after that happened their offense started out strong but after the Washington game they completely collapsed. I’m starting to see a similar pattern here with Dorsey and Josh. It started out great and now it’s come to somewhat of a stop. Even though Allen and company are still making things work to a degree. I do wonder though if the offense continues to struggle, is there a possibility that Dorsey gets fired or demoted?? 3 4 1 1 1 4 Quote
Billz4ever Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Might be a terrible take to some, but this is starting to remind me of the raiders back in 17 when Carr got Musgrave booted out of a job because he wanted his friend Downing to be his OC and after that happened their offense started out strong but after the Washington game they completely collapsed. I’m starting to see a similar pattern here with Dorsey and Josh. It started out great and now it’s come to somewhat of a stop. Even though Allen and company are still making things work to a degree. I do wonder though if the offense continues to struggle, is there a possibility that Dorsey gets fired or demoted?? When they're winning? 1 Quote
BruceVilanch Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 I would guess they would give him the benefit of the doubt since it's his first year and they're 10-3. But the offense has seemed to take a step back. But we're in a position now where the bills game is marked on everyone's calendar and we get every teams best punch. 3 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 If you’re talking about after the season ( whenever that is ) then maybe. Unlikely imo but maybe. If things don’t improve changes could be made. Quote
Real McClappy Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) #4 in the NFL as of now for points scored with a 10-3 record. How does that reflect a rookie OC that needs to be fired? How many WR drops, turnovers or off target throws is Dorsey responsible for? Edited December 12, 2022 by Real McNasty 8 9 4 6 Quote
nucci Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Not until season is over...really missing Daboll offense with shifting, motion and better patterns. Even though Daboll was frustrating at times he had better red zone play calls 1 6 Quote
transient Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 If Dorsey is the one telling Gabe and lil’ Dirty not to catch the balls that hit them in the hands, then yes. 4 4 6 5 Quote
BuffaloTX Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 I think Dorsey is waiting for the playoffs to unleash Khalil Shakir and the short passing game. 1 Quote
Real McClappy Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, transient said: If Dorsey is the one telling Gabe and lil’ Dirty not to catch the balls that hit them in the hands, then yes. Don't get going on the turn style OL that needs complete revamp by Beane next offseason. 6 2 Quote
T master Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) It's pretty apparent that Dorsey calls games differently than Dabol did but i believe that a lot of it could be loses in personal Bease being the biggest lose to Josh he was his safety valve always able to get open when others couldn't & Josh just isn't seeing or paying attention to those that are open at times . I saw a play from yesterday that Josh took off running & running down field right smack in front of him was Davis wide open & he was far enough for the first down but Josh (seemed to) look right at him & kept running so i think he's not taking what the opposing D is giving him & is back to laying hero ball . He doesn't have the confidence in Mckenzie, Shakir, & even Davis to a point plus you throw in the loses of Bease, Sanders, & now that Kumero & others have been out at some capacity due to injury through out the season it's hindered the chemistry of the offense . We can only hope that the injuries stop & they can continue to gut it out with wins & have every one playing together at the end to make this year the one . Dorsey could get fired but there is a lot more to consider & i don't think McD or Beane make knee jerk decisions like the Titans or others have made it's not in their DNA thank God !! Edited December 12, 2022 by T master Quote
nucci Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Beasley was a great slot receiver and really important to the passing game. He hasn't been replaced . Knox should be doing more 3 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Prob going to get piled on because "wE'rE tEn AnD thReE" and nothing can be off or fixed when you're winning. Dorsey has his moments but the offense feels clunky. We ignore the run for long stretches. We will start to use motion to get guys open fast but will go away from it quickly. At times nobody is open other times a couple guys are wide open and Josh throws into coverage. Josh seems different this year. Hes locking on to receivers, he's ignoring wide open receivers short or in the flats. Since the elbow he's had trouble with accuracy but there's been issues before that. We have a lot of people working on this offense. Brady, Shula, Kromer and Boras we're all OCs at one point in their careers and Dorsey has been with Josh under daboll for 3 years. I feel this offense should be humming. But maybe there's too many cooks in the kitchen? I don't think we fire him though. We're still ranked pretty high even with the struggles and he's a rookie OC Edited December 12, 2022 by Not at the table Karlos 3 Quote
Xwnyer Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, BuffaloTX said: I think Dorsey is waiting for the playoffs to unleash Khalil Shakir and the short passing game. These motion plays with Hines are looking to set something up but really need to figure out how to get quick passing game going, Miami will be bringing pressure from all over field gotta get quick hitters and some draws . Why this team sucks at screens and sweeps amazes. Me Quote
What a Tuel Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Come on guys....you did the same thing to Daboll. Always something to complain about... 10 3 1 8 Quote
Xwnyer Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, nucci said: Beasley was a great slot receiver and really important to the passing game. He hasn't been replaced . Knox should be doing more Knox is being used a lot to help chip block due to OL a being terrible 4 2 Quote
Ta111 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Is this thread for real? Edited December 12, 2022 by Ta111 5 Quote
Stank_Nasty Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 apparently his philosophy vs the jets was to target their strongest defenders and wanted nothing to do with exploiting the weaknesses…. COOL. 1 1 Quote
Epstein's Mother Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: When they're winning? Yeah. The OP says they're doing it wrong. Edited December 12, 2022 by Epstein's Mother Quote
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