Advice for Coach McD

[Nextmanup]

Let's go back to 1984 and see how well it works!

 

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

49 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Call your OC into the office tomorrow, and tell him as HC you want to see the offense run the ball.  And if he doesn’t want to call them, you will. 

McDermott doesn't read this board.  I doubt he is on social media 🤣

[streetkings01]

Jets dline ate our oline up for lunch today……just be happy we got outta there with a dub!

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Jets dline ate our oline up for lunch today……just be happy we got outta there with a dub!

It was a defensive battle today. Our defensive line destroy theirs as well.

[ghostwriter]

Dorsey’s seat keeps getting warmer and warmer, as it should when your offense is struggling with Josh Allen at the helm. 
 

If things don’t get sorted out by the postseason Buffalo should move on from him and maybe he can take Joe Brady with him. 🤷‍♂️

[DrPJax]

30 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont need them to run more, but I sure as heck need them to utilize the short passing game if they A. Refuse to Run and B. The defense is playing a 2 high shell.

 

They have to start taking what the defense is giving them.  The insistence to try and force it down the field when they offensive line cant block worth a dang drives me absolutely nuts!

      I think you make a great point,  but look at all the drops on short passes today ( knox, motor, mckenzie killed two drives on short passes right in his hands , and early Josh was off even missing a quick slant to Diggs,) I will watch the all 22 but I don’t remember Josh throwing many deep balls at all today. If they don’t have so many drops , the offense looks a heck of a lot better.  This o line also killed drives with holding penalties again.  Like you said tho, at other times Josh seemed to go back to holding the ball longer as he was going thru reads ; will be interesting to see if guys were free on shorter routes and if he chose again to not take the short routes waiting for longer ones to open.  
 

       Watching how much Miami is blitzing tonight looks worrisome as this o line struggles protecting Josh. Next week they better have ways to get the ball out quickly , like even using Smoke in the slot as he and Josh had good chemistry on quick slants I think.  But they can’t keep having the drops and penalties or the fins will really be more of a problem. Man,They send guys relentlessly, so the receivers have to help Josh , including the backs as hot routes.  It hurts both the pass and run game with lack of a good  2 nd tight end as well , as Gilliam has not contributed much as a receiver recently. Dorsey needs to have a good game creatively next week ( like the great 4 th down call today) because I just don’t see the fins only sending 4 and we can’t have guys untouched right in Josh’s face immediately all night. 
 

    It would be interesting  if the Bills can somewhat mimic what  they did in the first game ( 90 offensive plays) and take the short stuff early , the Fins D will wear down and can be run on later.  The big issue tho , is ball security either by running more or receivers actually not dropping passes for us to handle the fins , and hope our corners, LBs , and safeties are healthy going into the game.  

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont need them to run more, but I sure as heck need them to utilize the short passing game if they A. Refuse to Run and B. The defense is playing a 2 high shell.

 

They have to start taking what the defense is giving them.  The insistence to try and force it down the field when they offensive line cant block worth a dang drives me absolutely nuts!

💯 

 

 

[Malazan]

Just curious, does anyone have stats on how many runs / short passes were called in previous years compared to this year? 

[Freddie's Dead]

The Bills had 13 runs to Motor (8, really?), Cook (4), and McKittrick (1).  There were 9 runs to Josh, so let's call those 4 designed, 5 scrambles.  So with 34 pass attempts, the Bills called 39 passes to 17 runs (2.3x more passes than runs).  With the weather conditions today, that's idiotic.  Dorsey is ridiculously pass happy, and he needs to rein that ***** in.  Today was a really bad day to completely abandon the run, yet he did.  Yes, we won, but the balance in this offense was non-existent today.  We'll need that to beat the better teams in the playoffs.

[Locomark]

Dear OpEd, if I see another called unprotected Josh weak sign wide run on 3rd and 5 I will puke. That’s what he should say. We scored points when we threw not the other way around.
Passing the ball short is like running the ball and we seem to have stopped that.
 

We use the pass and play action pass to setup the run, not the other way around!!!!!

 

10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The Bills had 13 runs to Motor (8, really?), Cook (4), and McKittrick (1).  There were 9 runs to Josh, so let's call those 4 designed, 5 scrambles.  So with 34 pass attempts, the Bills called 39 passes to 17 runs (2.3x more passes than runs).  With the weather conditions today, that's idiotic.  Dorsey is ridiculously pass happy, and he needs to rein that ***** in.  Today was a really bad day to completely abandon the run, yet he did.  Yes, we won, but the balance in this offense was non-existent today.  We'll need that to beat the better teams in the playoffs.

False narrative. KC doesn’t win playoff games running, neither does Cinci or Miami.  It’s pass first. The Ravens and Titans model is not winning in the AFC playoffs. Only one team will be running the ball and it will be the NFC team in the Super Bowl. Even Philly is pass first. 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Locomark

[RenoNVBillsfan]

Motor averaged nearly 5.0 yards a carry today, 3.9 last week vs the Pats. I do not understand why he is not given 1 game to prove he can be a bell cow runner. One game….

[oldmanfan]

13 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Dear OpEd, if I see another called unprotected Josh weak sign wide run on 3rd and 5 I will puke. That’s what he should say. We scored points when we threw not the other way around.
Passing the ball short is like running the ball and we seem to have stopped that.
 

We use the pass and play action pass to setup the run, not the other way around!!!!!

 

False narrative. KC doesn’t win playoff games running, neither does Cinci or Miami.  It’s pass first. The Ravens and Titans model is not winning in the AFC playoffs. Only one team will be running the ball and it will be the NFC team in the Super Bowl. Even Philly is pass first. 

In a game like today’s with the weather and the Jets practically inviting us to run, you run the ball more.

[NickelCity]

Dorsey did not call a good game. Our offensive line is bad. We have GOT to figure out a short passing game and quick. The W is all that matters, and the Jets' D is no joke. Onward.

Edited December 12, 2022 by NickelCity

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont need them to run more, but I sure as heck need them to utilize the short passing game if they A. Refuse to Run and B. The defense is playing a 2 high shell.

 

They have to start taking what the defense is giving them.  The insistence to try and force it down the field when they offensive line cant block worth a dang drives me absolutely nuts!

It’s hard to take what the defense is giving you when McKenzie and singletary are consistently dropping dumpoffs lol 

 

I also think people underestimate how much the defensive line can disrupt the short passing game by flooding the passing lanes 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Freddie's Dead]

52 minutes ago, Locomark said:

Dear OpEd, if I see another called unprotected Josh weak sign wide run on 3rd and 5 I will puke. That’s what he should say. We scored points when we threw not the other way around.
Passing the ball short is like running the ball and we seem to have stopped that.
 

We use the pass and play action pass to setup the run, not the other way around!!!!!

 

False narrative. KC doesn’t win playoff games running, neither does Cinci or Miami.  It’s pass first. The Ravens and Titans model is not winning in the AFC playoffs. Only one team will be running the ball and it will be the NFC team in the Super Bowl. Even Philly is pass first. 

 

Pass first is fine.  But not 2.3x pass/run plays in a driving rain.  I looked up the Cinci and KC box scores and they were maybe 1.3-1.5x pass/run.  We gonna disagree on this one.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Freddie's Dead

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I think he's got this and doesn't need some random dudes help on a message board.

 

Professionals gain wisdom from commoners more often than you think. There is a reason why we work in “teams”. 10 average brains are collectively smarter than 1 high IQ brain.

[BillsFan692]

1 hour ago, Locomark said:

Dear OpEd, if I see another called unprotected Josh weak sign wide run on 3rd and 5 I will puke. That’s what he should say. We scored points when we threw not the other way around.
Passing the ball short is like running the ball and we seem to have stopped that.
 

We use the pass and play action pass to setup the run, not the other way around!!!!!

 

False narrative. KC doesn’t win playoff games running, neither does Cinci or Miami.  It’s pass first. The Ravens and Titans model is not winning in the AFC playoffs. Only one team will be running the ball and it will be the NFC team in the Super Bowl. Even Philly is pass first. 

Miami doesnt win playoff games at all what are you talking about 

[Albany,n.y.]

Marv Levy on advice for coaches:  "If you start listening to the fans, soon you're going to be sitting with them."

[reddogblitz]

My advice to Coach McDermott would be keep up the good work buddy. Bills are 10-3 and #1 seed in the AFC and 5-3 in one score games.  Keep up the good work.  That is all.

[cage]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

What happens if we go three and out every possession because our o-line can't run block?

 

"when", not "if"