thenorthremembers Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Big C said: He said “becoming elite.” Do you have to be a buzzkill for a guy that’s showing elite traits as well as continuous improvement? Not being a buzzkill having a conversation. Should every thread just be a person making a statement and the rest of the board applauding their ability to do so? Man, not agreeing with someone doesn't automatically make you a buzz kill or a killjoy. 2 Quote
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 An absolute monster, brilliant mind to go along with freak athleticism. He's not very old either 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: He didn't even play in college the year he was drafted...and was super raw the year before that even tho he dominated. When they say the sky is the limit, that is definitely true for him. They basically said the same thing about Mabin. I’m still at a ‘wait & see’ position, but easily acknowledge he’s trajecting upwards faster & better than Boogie or Epenesa. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, BillsVet said: The only thing in common between Edmunds and Rousseau is they were both taken by the Bills in the 1st round. Their NFL careers are at different junctures and the former may not even play on the team next season. The only way our Pro Bowl, Defensive Captain isn’t on the Beane/McDermott team going forward is if he accepts another teams’ extraordinary, can’t refuse offer next Spring. Face it, haters. The Bills love ‘Maine! 1 Quote
babulator Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 He's also a pretty likeable guy, I ❤️ these Bills! And who doesn't love yelling out; GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT! Go Bills! 2 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Even though Von is out for the year at this point, his two biggest contributions are going to be helping us win the KC game early in the year, AND the developmental leadership he offered to guys like Rousseau. If that can help us to earn the #1 seed and bigger things in the playoffs, I’ll take it. 2 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Warcodered said: That’s a great interview. The Lawson signing by Beane is working out. 2 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 11 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: He is becoming a good starting defensive end rather than just a guy in a rotation. Elite is a pretty strong term. Maybe he will be there but right now elite is a long way off. The loss of Von Miller won't be felt until crunch time in the playoffs. I don't see the young guys stepping up just yet like Von has proven he can and has. Bills will be highly competitive the whole way, but Miller was the missing piece. Top 5 roster for sure, but it will be a huge dogfight to get to the SB and win it, without Miller, Hyde, Beasley and Daboll, a pile of guys out each week and with Josh not 100%. They look alternately invincible and beatable . Really hard to know what each game will produce other than a great fight out of the Bills. Lets go play the games and see what we see. Quote
Westside Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: The loss of Von Miller won't be felt until crunch time in the playoffs. I don't see the young guys stepping up just yet like Von has proven he can and has. Bills will be highly competitive the whole way, but Miller was the missing piece. Top 5 roster for sure, but it will be a huge dogfight to get to the SB and win it, without Miller, Hyde, Beasley and Daboll, a pile of guys out each week and with Josh not 100%. They look alternately invincible and beatable . Really hard to know what each game will produce other than a great fight out of the Bills. Lets go play the games and see what we see. You can say that about every team. They all have the same issues. Injuries, slumps, etc. It’s a long season made even longer since last year. KC almost lost to Denver. Miami lost to the chargers. No team really looks dominant this year. We have just a good a shot as any team to win it all. 1 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 The Miller contract was surely offered with this in mind. It’s working so far. Von is immense and so, so clever. If he can help make Greg elite, we’re laughing Quote
Da webster guy Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Groot is the man. Showed great work ethic in the offseason, added another 10 lbs of muscle and spent every day in practice watching and talking to Von. He is a complete player now and its coming at the perfect time. 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Becoming very good. If and when he get 14 or more sacks that's top-5 and elite to me. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 14 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I say this statement alot but his presence is def felt. He's the Edmunds of the DL. Even if he didn't put up stats on the play, his size and length impacted the play that won't show up on the stat sheet That's just an attempt at pumping up Edmunds. Edmunds is a great athlete but he is not a play maker. Rousseau is. Very different. They are almost the opposite in this regard. Groot gets sacks. He gets his hands on more passes than Edmunds. He creates turnovers. He lead the NFL in run stops by a DL last season. The only thing MORE ridiculous would be to compare Edmunds to Allen or Diggs. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: The loss of Von Miller won't be felt until crunch time in the playoffs. I don't see the young guys stepping up just yet like Von has proven he can and has. Bills will be highly competitive the whole way, but Miller was the missing piece. Top 5 roster for sure, but it will be a huge dogfight to get to the SB and win it, without Miller, Hyde, Beasley and Daboll, a pile of guys out each week and with Josh not 100%. They look alternately invincible and beatable . Really hard to know what each game will produce other than a great fight out of the Bills. Lets go play the games and see what we see. I'm hoping they tough out some ugly wins to close the season and enter the playoffs comparatively healthy. Not having Von is a huge loss. But we can still make a run to the SB if the rest of the stars (particularly Josh and his elbow) are feeling good. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 Also seems like Epenesa has taken some steps this year. I think he has 5.5 sacks...I was close to writing him off. Although I dont think he will ever be confused for being elite, he can be a lunch pal dude. Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 7 Sacks on the year just noticed that. He's been great when in. I love that he exploits his size (6'7) and it's so noticeable out there. Might be one of those freak talents if he can keep on this pace. Would be huge given the Miller loss if he can step up here in the next 5-8 weeks. Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: The loss of Von Miller won't be felt until crunch time in the playoffs. I don't see the young guys stepping up just yet like Von has proven he can and has. Bills will be highly competitive the whole way, but Miller was the missing piece. Top 5 roster for sure, but it will be a huge dogfight to get to the SB and win it, without Miller, Hyde, Beasley and Daboll, a pile of guys out each week and with Josh not 100%. They look alternately invincible and beatable . Really hard to know what each game will produce other than a great fight out of the Bills. Lets go play the games and see what we see. Man, you are really making a lot of excuses for failure. Quote
eball Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 17 hours ago, jimmy10 said: There’s no question Von’s injury takes a major asset off the field, but it’s pretty clear just having him around will still be of some genuine benefit. Damn, son, where've you been? Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 19 hours ago, SCBills said: Von did say Rousseau will become the best DE in the NFL… He also said He'd play this week Quote
DCofNC Posted December 12, 2022 Posted December 12, 2022 He’s not elite yet, most of his sacks are really coverage sacks or somebody else pushing the QB to him. He’s got some more moves than he had, I’d like to see him stunt inside more, he’s an absolute problem when he does. He does a great job against the run and his length definitely causes issues. His pass rush still has a long way to go to be considered elite. He’s a legit starter at DE in the NFL and that’s a great start. I’m hoping for Campbell 2.0. Quote
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