ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: People don’t care about COVID anymore. They’d rather have people die needlessly than be inconvenienced. 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: People don’t care about COVID anymore. They’d rather have people die needlessly than be inconvenienced. Jha went so far as to suggest that if everyone followed the recommended vaccine and treatment course, they could "prevent nearly every death in America from COVID."https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/boosters-prevent-essentially-covid-death-wh-official-boosters/story?id=93805440 We all just need to trust the experts and continue boosting and masking for as long as necessary. Also don’t forget to do your part and stay six feet apart. Why is that so hard? It’s because people are awful.
Big Blitz Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: People don’t care about COVID anymore. They’d rather have people die needlessly than be inconvenienced. Or not “die suddenly.” Question nothing. 1
Doc Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: People don’t care about COVID anymore. They’d rather have people die needlessly than be inconvenienced. No, the left doesn't care to show the truth about the number of deaths because Joke won and it's inconvenient for him to have more deaths under his watch than Trump, who was totally responsible for Wuhan virus. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Doc said: No, the left doesn't care to show the truth about the number of deaths because Joke won and it's inconvenient for him to have more deaths under his watch than Trump, who was totally responsible for Wuhan virus. Then I have to assume that Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and all the other right wing “news” outlets have COVID death counters on every broadcast, right? 1
Roundybout Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Where are these numbers sourced from?
Doc Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Then I have to assume that Fox, Newsmax, OAN, and all the other right wing “news” outlets have COVID death counters on every broadcast, right? Did they before? 1
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Where are these numbers sourced from? It is from a med journal, and you have to pay to download the whole thing which I am not doing, but I will provide a summary and a link to the original so if you want to you can. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/sji.13242 https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/more-than-270-sudden-cardiac-deaths-in-us-athletes-after-vaccination-peer-reviewed-study_4960561.html 1
Roundybout Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: It is from a med journal, and you have to pay to download the whole thing which I am not doing, but I will provide a summary and a link to the original so if you want to you can. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/sji.13242 https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/more-than-270-sudden-cardiac-deaths-in-us-athletes-after-vaccination-peer-reviewed-study_4960561.html Now wait a minute. First off, that’s not a journal paper, that’s a letter to the editor. Second, the letter’s cited source for the numbers is this: https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/ This is a far-right wing pseudoscience website that supposedly tracks athlete deaths due to the Covid shot. It’s not remotely unbiased and it counts deaths due to CANCER and LIVER DISEASE as “vaccine related” deaths without any proof of correlation whatsoever. No respectable medical journal would count this as a source! I don’t buy this for a second. This is just sad. Edited January 11, 2023 by Roundybout 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Now wait a minute. First off, that’s not a journal paper, that’s a letter to the editor. Second, the letter’s cited source for the numbers is this: https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/ This is a far-right wing pseudoscience website that supposedly tracks athlete deaths due to the Covid shot. It’s not remotely unbiased and it counts deaths due to CANCER and LIVER DISEASE as “vaccine related” deaths without any proof of correlation whatsoever. No respectable medical journal would count this as a source! I don’t buy this for a second. This is just sad. So what are the numbers that are true?
BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 The original papers for the mRNA vaccine trials in NEJM both outline in plain terms that the vaccines were not 100% effective at preventing infection. Furthermore, anyone who took immunology 101 could tell you that vaccine efficacy will wane over time due to the priciples of human immunology, viral mutation and other variables. The vaccine will also have varying immunogenicity on an individual basis. A 30 year old in peak health is likely to have a far more robust immune response than say a 65 year old smoker with diabetes. Finally, the consent forms that everyone who took the vaccine were provided with also state clearly that it MAY prevent covid infection. Every single "expert" who told you that if you get vaccinated then you will not get covid lied to you. Period.
JaCrispy Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 12 hours ago, ChiGoose said: People don’t care about COVID anymore. They’d rather have people die needlessly than be inconvenienced. Who is “they”? 1
Doc Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: The original papers for the mRNA vaccine trials in NEJM both outline in plain terms that the vaccines were not 100% effective at preventing infection. Furthermore, anyone who took immunology 101 could tell you that vaccine efficacy will wane over time due to the priciples of human immunology, viral mutation and other variables. The vaccine will also have varying immunogenicity on an individual basis. A 30 year old in peak health is likely to have a far more robust immune response than say a 65 year old smoker with diabetes. Finally, the consent forms that everyone who took the vaccine were provided with also state clearly that it MAY prevent covid infection. Every single "expert" who told you that if you get vaccinated then you will not get covid lied to you. Period. The bigger lie was that you couldn't transmit to to others. 2
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Who is “they”? Most Americans. Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Now wait a minute. First off, that’s not a journal paper, that’s a letter to the editor. Second, the letter’s cited source for the numbers is this: https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/ This is a far-right wing pseudoscience website that supposedly tracks athlete deaths due to the Covid shot. It’s not remotely unbiased and it counts deaths due to CANCER and LIVER DISEASE as “vaccine related” deaths without any proof of correlation whatsoever. No respectable medical journal would count this as a source! I don’t buy this for a second. This is just sad. oh snap. the exact argument people used when the hospitals were saying cancer patients or car accident deaths were covid cause they tested for it. 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Most Americans. Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing. Masking without following basic Blood Borne pathogen Policies for changing and destruction, actually transmits germs. does anyone notice doctors and nurses change mask between every patient. remove them and put them directly into the RED destruction bin? Edited January 11, 2023 by Chris farley
BillsFanNC Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, Doc said: The bigger lie was that you couldn't transmit to to others. Maybe, but you have to get it first before you can transmit it. So first they lied and told people who are vaccinated that they can't get covid, then doubled down with the insanity that if you do get it and are vaccinated, despite previously telling you that you couldn't get it if vaccinated, that you couldn't transmit it to others. Instead of just telling the truth that the vaccine isn't perfect and you might still get covid, but the severity and mortality risk if lower if vaccinated, they had to lie. Over and over and over again. Follow the science though! 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Most Americans. Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing. You do you if you want to wear a mask despite the fact that they are absolutely useless as a public health measure to control the spread of respiratory viruses. Signed, Sane Americans 1
Gene Frenkle Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 On 12/10/2022 at 8:35 AM, Orlando Tim said: I am not excluding the possibility that he was murdered but if it comes back as a heart issue he is someone who was fully vaxxed multiple times over if he believed similar to his wife. The Vax certainly has caused an uptick in heart related complications. Has it, Tim?
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Most Americans. Even after a million deaths, they oppose even the simplest mitigations like mask wearing. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/japan/ These people do care. Maybe we can experience the same level of success if people start caring. Masking seems more like feelings over facts. Wish-casting even. Edited January 11, 2023 by JDHillFan
ChiGoose Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said: Has it, Tim? COVID has, but for the feelings over facts crew, the vaccine is more fun to blame.
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