MarkyMannn Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Basically it sounds like they concluded the girl is full of crap and that Araiza didn't do anything wrong. Not full of scrap, rather cannot be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt." Per the tweet I'm not taking a side in the case Edited December 7, 2022 by MarkyMannn
Kmart128 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I like Sam Martin always been a great punter. But i feel like we need to make it up to him... we cut him when clearly there was not significant evidence 1 1
Doc Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, PayDaBill$ said: So they had an exceptionally weak case with no chance at a conviction. Sounds like you’re splitting hairs. The gang rape could have happened, they just don't have the evidence to get a conviction. The stuff about Araiza knowing she was 17 and gang raping her with the others after having her alone didn't pass the smell test.
Dr. K Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Probably because she was caught on video saying she was looking to add more than 1 to her body count that night...pretty hard to not to overlook this as a setup. Does saying this mean it's okay to get her pass-out drunk and gang rape her? We don't know what happened. I don't know. You don't know. 1
mrags Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Idk if the Bills or anyone in the NFL will be calling for him Someone will. The minute a punter gets injured. Or next off-season to bring in to be a camp body.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Inocent till proven guilty Not in the public. 1
John from Riverside Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I am glad there was some closure to this. It doesn’t make me want him to all of a sudden be our punter again. The one we have is fine. 1
Kmart128 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Dr. K said: No. They decided they couldn't prove it in a court of law. They came out and said the evidence doesn't support the filing charges... thats a nice way of calling them full of crap Edited December 7, 2022 by Kmart128 1 2 2
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: Idk if the Bills or anyone in the NFL will be calling for him He’ll get a job next year.
Big Turk Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Dr. K said: Does saying this mean it's okay to get her pass-out drunk and gang rape her? We don't know what happened. I don't know. You don't know. Obviously if that is what happened then no, but clearly they don't think they can prove that happened, so the number of people acting like it DID regardless of their evidence is a little strange. Innocent til proven guilty is a tenant of this country's law. Even today. Social Media is not a valid courtroom. 1
nedboy7 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, eball said: I'd hold off on making any proclamations one way or the other until it is known what happens in the civil suit. DeCreep Watson wasn't criminally prosecuted yet still paid a lot of money because of his creepism. Now, if the civil suit is dropped without a payment the kid (Araiza) should certainly be given a 2nd chance at a pro career. Well said and rational. 1
HappyDays Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: My guess is she imagined it being more enjoyable than it was (3:1), and decided to stir up some **** afterwards. This is just as bad as people saying they know he is guilty. Why can't we just accept that no one will ever know for sure and Araiza gets to live his life as a free man? That's how the justice system works. 3
Since1981 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 It's not worth it for Bills. 4 minutes ago, Doc said: I knew Araiza wouldn't be charged. I thought there was a possibility his teammates could have been. 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: the way they worded it is that they couldn’t secure a conviction, not that they didn’t have any case We've all been in a place where we had to make a decision at 21 yrs old. He and his buddies made wrong choices. And, HOWEVER it all exactly went down, he had choices and picked poorly. Beane has a choice and I'm quite certain he won't pick a dumb punter.
K-9 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Glad he can resume his life and career. Didn’t her lawyer file a civil suit? Any idea of that status?
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Tremaine Edmunds!!!! Chris Kelsey!!! Lee Smith!!!!
plenzmd1 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said: Not full of scrap, rather cannot be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt." Per the tweet I'm not taking a side in the case see, i read this from the tweet and take it as" not even close to being able to bring to trial" "Ultimately, prosecutors determined it is clear the evidence does not support the filing of criminal charges and there is no path to a potential criminal conviction." I mean, this is what 5 guys involved, in a house, during a party...and sounds like not one corroborating witness..that's just a guess on my part...but one would think someone would want to come clean 2
DapperCam Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Turk said: So you are telling me if a guy went out to a bar looking for a fight and then you found out later he got in a fight and ended up in the hospital that you would be saying he played no part in that happening? Well, fighting is pretty different from what we’re talking about here in a lot of ways, so I don’t understand your analogy.
Airseven Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Hopefully Araiza can get back to football at some point soon. 1 1
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