I'm glad we have McDermott

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Keep repeating that line over & over.  Never get's old.  

 

Here's others to look at.

 

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2022/2/11/22922096/super-bowl-history-quarterbacks-second-year-joe-burrow-bengals-vs-rams

 

https://www.ranker.com/list/youngest-quarterbacks-super-bowl-history/pedro-cerrano

 

Josh is 26.....  That would make him 18th on the list if they make it this year.  

 

I think it's time.....😝

Really starting to think that you're trying to gaslighting everyone here. 

[Billsfan1972]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Really starting to think that you're trying to gaslighting everyone here. 

Serious question.  How so?

 

I found a couple of interesting stats (QB's in second year in SB) and Youngest SB QBs.

 

Do I think JA should have been in it Year 2?  Absolutely not.

 

The fact 17 made Superbowls younger the him certainly indicates it is doable and his age & experience should not be questioned.  

 

But yes I get tired of everyone using the "Project" excuse.  I was of the mind throw him in and let him make mistakes and get better.  McD thought Peterman was the better qb to start 2018.

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

12 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Serious question.  How so?

 

I found a couple of interesting stats (QB's in second year in SB) and Youngest SB QBs.

 

Do I think JA should have been in it Year 2?  Absolutely not.

 

The fact 17 made Superbowls younger the him certainly indicates it is doable and his age & experience should not be questioned.  

 

But yes I get tired of everyone using the "Project" excuse.  I was of the mind throw him in and let him make mistakes and get better.  McD thought Peterman was the better qb to start 2018.

You do you. Outta this conversation.

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Keep repeating that line over & over.  Never get's old.  

 

Here's others to look at.

 

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2022/2/11/22922096/super-bowl-history-quarterbacks-second-year-joe-burrow-bengals-vs-rams

 

https://www.ranker.com/list/youngest-quarterbacks-super-bowl-history/pedro-cerrano

 

Josh is 26.....  That would make him 18th on the list if they make it this year.  

 

I think it's time.....😝

Is there something you don't agree with?

 

Not sure what the list is about. Any list where Josh Allen ranks lower than Rex Grossman, I'm not putting much stock into it.

[LeGOATski]

31 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Serious question.  How so?

 

I found a couple of interesting stats (QB's in second year in SB) and Youngest SB QBs.

 

Do I think JA should have been in it Year 2?  Absolutely not.

 

The fact 17 made Superbowls younger the him certainly indicates it is doable and his age & experience should not be questioned.  

 

But yes I get tired of everyone using the "Project" excuse.  I was of the mind throw him in and let him make mistakes and get better.  McD thought Peterman was the better qb to start 2018.

Okay. Of course, it's doable. No one is questioning his age and experience. You seem to be arguing with some imaginary person.

[teef]

15 hours ago, Chaos said:

the bold part is the most unproven part of the McDermott regime. He has not demonstrated the ability to " everything had to go just right at the right time" Maybe it is all just luck.  But for about 20 years, the AFC super bowl participating QB was Tom Brady , Peyton Manning or Ben Rothlisberger.  (brief rich gannon, joe flacco interludes).  Each of the big three has won super bowls with more than one coach.  In the current era, having Josh Allen for 10 years and not winning or even participating in a Super Bowl would be an epic failure and tragic. This is year 6.  Bills winning the Super Bowl, and McDermott coaches the Bills until he wants to retire in all likelyhood.   A failure to make the super bowl this year and being the Bills or Bengals supplicants, would be another chapter in a sad story.  Or maybe Josh Allen isn't one of the best two QBs in football. 

or this wasn't just the year it happened.  we all want it, but i'm not ready to run a coach out of town yet for not having it.  

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Serious question.  How so?

 

I found a couple of interesting stats (QB's in second year in SB) and Youngest SB QBs.

 

Do I think JA should have been in it Year 2?  Absolutely not.

 

The fact 17 made Superbowls younger the him certainly indicates it is doable and his age & experience should not be questioned.  

 

But yes I get tired of everyone using the "Project" excuse.  I was of the mind throw him in and let him make mistakes and get better.  McD thought Peterman was the better qb to start 2018.

what is even going on here?

[section122]

1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Serious question.  How so?

 

 

12 minutes ago, teef said:

what is even going on here?

 

I'm officially identifying him as a troll.  Nobody is this invested in arguing against the coach of the 9-3 first place in the afc bills.  Except the guy with the screen name tied to the Dolphins perfect season.

[Royale with Cheese]

Josh was drafted by this regime and under this regime, he has turned into an MVP candidate.

 

Not saying Allen is successful just because of McDermott.  I’m saying McDermott has provided an environment in which Allen could thrive.  There are a lot of good, young QB’s that were put with bad regimes who stunted their development…didn’t happen here.

[Billsfan1972]

9 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

 

I'm officially identifying him as a troll.  Nobody is this invested in arguing against the coach of the 9-3 first place in the afc bills.  Except the guy with the screen name tied to the Dolphins perfect season.

I'm not arguing about McD at all.  I don't hold him in as high regards as others, but think he is a good coach, and hope that eventually a great coach.

 

It is the # here who feel the need to post threads saying he is so good that I disagree with.

 

I personally think that it more because of Allen the Bills are where they are then Mcd.

[Royale with Cheese]

14 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

 

I'm officially identifying him as a troll.  Nobody is this invested in arguing against the coach of the 9-3 first place in the afc bills.  Except the guy with the screen name tied to the Dolphins perfect season.

 

You aren't the first person to think of him as trolling....but he's not.  This is just him.

[boater]

McDermott treats injuries very conservatively.  I'm glad we have McDermott.

 

Options:

 

1. Witnessed this afternoon.. We could have Robert Saleh. He returned an injured Mike White to the game. Mike White was so badly injured he left the stadium after the game in an ambulance.

 

2. We could have Michael McDaniel. He threw a concussed Tua Tagovailoa back into the game.

 

I'm glad we have McDermott. I'm sure the players are glad as well.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

59-35.  Keeps racking up wins.

[Big Turk]

 

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

100% this. But also you know when the Bengals hired a QB coach from LA and even when he took them to the Superbowl last year I was unsure about whether Zac Taylor was a leader of men. I think last night tells me I was wrong about him. I thought the two Head Coaches behaved impeccably as people, representatives of their organisations and the league and as leaders. 

 

I already knew Sean McDermott was that kind of character. My opinion of Zac Taylor went through the roof last night. From all reports he walked back across the field to Sean and said words to the effect of "restarting this isn't right if you guys want to go in we are going with you." Incredible leadership and incredible humanity. Don't wait for a ref or a league official to have to make a call. Stand up and do what is right. 

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

100% this. But also you know when the Bengals hired a QB coach from LA and even when he took them to the Superbowl last year I was unsure about whether Zac Taylor was a leader of men. I think last night tells me I was wrong about him. I thought the two Head Coaches behaved impeccably as people, representatives of their organisations and the league and as leaders. 

 

I already knew Sean McDermott was that kind of character. My opinion of Zac Taylor went through the roof last night. From all reports he walked back across the field to Sean and said words to the effect of "restarting this isn't right if you guys want to go in we are going with you." Incredible leadership and incredible humanity. Don't wait for a ref or a league official to have to make a call. Stand up and do what is right. 

I mean the Bills were never going back out on that field, it wasn't that difficult a decision from the Bengals perspective

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I mean the Bills were never going back out on that field, it wasn't that difficult a decision from the Bengals perspective

 

Besides the point. He didn't wait for it to be in someone else's hands, he showed real leadership. I thought he came out with enormous credit. 

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I mean the Bills were never going back out on that field, it wasn't that difficult a decision from the Bengals perspective

 

I believe Taylor wanted to make sure he knew they were with him and that the Bills wouldn't be forced to forfeit because they would refuse to play also.

[GoBills808]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Besides the point. He didn't wait for it to be in someone else's hands, he showed real leadership. I thought he came out with enormous credit. 

I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just saying there was no way the Bills were going back on the field, and optically there was zero chance Taylor and the Bengals were going to try to make some fuss about a forfeit. I think everyone acted appropriately.

1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

I believe Taylor wanted to make sure he knew they were with him and that the Bills wouldn't be forced to forfeit because they would refuse to play also.

I'm sure McDermott appreciated that, but there's no 'refuse to play also'. If one team isn't going to play there's nothing incumbent upon the other side.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I'm not trying to be argumentative. I'm just saying there was no way the Bills were going back on the field, and optically there was zero chance Taylor and the Bengals were going to try to make some fuss about a forfeit. I think everyone acted appropriately.

 

I get that but other coaches might have waited for the refs to go to them and say "Buffalo isn't going to continue we are going to go in" and I agree at that stage nobody in those circumstances says "well we are staying out if they go in they forfeit." It was that Taylor was the one who took into his own hands to go across proactively and said we are with you. He deserves recognising for that leadership.

[Billsfan1972]

What would Bill Belichek have done?  I'm not sure there is a single coach who would not have done what those two did, but then there's Bill, who no one seems to have any idea what he's thinking.

 

Probably not being fair to Bill, but yes be thankful for both Coaches knowing what to do and not waiting for Godell to make the call.  If they stayed on the field, the crowd too may have reacted differently.