Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Let me ask. Are you always this miserable? Fumble or mis snap is worst in that situation being close to goaline. As well as Vikings understand that formation. Predictable makes things lots easier. Huh? Joked that some will use the Miller injury as a defense. The thing is I'm so high on the Bills, that yes the fact games have been too close of late (or losses) has been a bother. Take a look at Philly destroying Tenn or Dallas vs Minny & that is what I expect from Buffalo. You are right on the fumble. 5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Agree , Allen was a raw rookie and you had to be careful not to ruin him. Those plans went awry and he was pressed into service. Peterman had looked good in practice but when things got real he tanked in a hurry. You had two unknowns at QB, so the reasoning was sound. To me that meant a veteran QB and better support for him and people to learn from. This was not a Superbowl contender and the worry with McD was on the offensive side of the ball. Over & done with and we are here now with Allen. I thought they could have accelerated the learning curve and had him doing some things earlier and a better offensive core. But all is good right now. Edited December 8, 2022 by Billsfan1972 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Huh? Joked that some will use the Miller injury as a defense. The thing is I'm so high on the Bills, that yes the fact games have been too close of late (or losses) has been a bother. Take a look at Philly destroying Tenn or Dallas vs Minny & that is what I expect from Buffalo. You are right on the fumble. To me that meant a veteran QB and better support for him and people to learn from. This was not a Superbowl contender and the worry with McD was on the offensive side of the ball. Over & done with and we are here now with Allen. I thought they could have accelerated the learning curve and had him doing some things earlier and a better offensive core. But all is good right now. Err... we have the highest net point differential in the NFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Err... we have the highest net point differential in the NFL. And you know that was all early in the season when the Bills destroyed Rams, Titans & Steelers..... I get it, but yes I want to see a dominating performance. Just been disjointed since the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: And you know that was all early in the season when the Bills destroyed Rams, Titans & Steelers..... I get it, but yes I want to see a dominating performance. Just been disjointed since the bye. They beat a team that was above .500 by 14 points last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They beat a team that was above .500 by 14 points last week. They are 6-6..... Please stop that the Pats are such a good team. Mac is not a good QB right now. A nice win, but yes I'd like more points on offense. NE has one real quality win vs. Detroit (before they found their mojo/stride) and yes 2 vs. Wilson & the Jets, but others were Pitt, Colts & Browns..... Let's hope better vs. the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: They are 6-6..... Please stop that the Pats are such a good team. Mac is not a good QB right now. A nice win, but yes I'd like more points on offense. NE has one real quality win vs. Detroit (before they found their mojo/stride) and yes 2 vs. Wilson & the Jets, but others were Pitt, Colts & Browns..... Let's hope better vs. the Jets. They are not a great team. But they went into that game above .500 and the Bills went on the road and beat them by 14. In the NFL that's a good win. I'm all for high standards, but I think being down on that is slightly unrealistic. Edited December 8, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They are not a great team. But they went into that game above .500 and the Bills went on the road and beat them by 14. In the NFL that's a good win. I'm all for high standards, but I think being down on that is slightly unrealistic. Slightly?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They are not a great team. But they went into that game above .500 and the Bills went on the road and beat them by 14. In the NFL that's a good win. I'm all for high standards, but I think being down on that is slightly unrealistic. Geez I said in another thread (that I started) that it was a good win. I also said I was concerned about OL blocking (yes primarily Quessenberry as he stood out like a sore thumb) and an inordinate amount of drops. I want as said for the Bills to assert themselves as they did at the end of 2021 and early this year (Miami game notwithstanding). Still in a post Bye funk and want to see Allen back to his old self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They are not a great team. But they went into that game above .500 and the Bills went on the road and beat them by 14. In the NFL that's a good win. I'm all for high standards, but I think being down on that is slightly unrealistic. Slightly?? It's the complete opposite of slightly. We have to dominate every single game, which of course has never been done in the NFL...that's the only thing that will keep him from crying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Slightly?? It's the complete opposite of slightly. We have to dominate every single game, which of course has never been done in the NFL...that's the only thing that will keep him from crying. Grow up...... I start a thread or two, last one pointing out a concern I had watching the NE game and you get all upset and troll when I post. Yes I want to see the Bills return to the form they showed early in the season (and end of 2021 & the 13-3 2020 season too). Yes unrealistically I saw a team like the 2007 Pats (and some others did too). https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/ne/season/2007 Edited December 8, 2022 by Billsfan1972 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: They beat a team that was above .500 by 14 points last week. THAT is a very mediocre team, destined to finish last in the AFC-E! Their QB is lost and the supporting cast is substandard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Grow up...... I start a thread or two, last one pointing out a concern I had watching the NE game and you get all upset and troll when I post. Yes I want to see the Bills return to the form they showed early in the season (and end of 2021). Yes unrealistically I saw a team like the 2007 Pats (and some others did too). https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/ne/season/2007 Don’t skirt this question. Show proof the 2007 Pats and a few others dominated every game. I want to see what your head comes up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said: THAT is a very mediocre team, destined to finish last in the AFC-E! Their QB is lost and the supporting cast is substandard. Doesn't fit some people's narrative. They are a decent team, not great, a lot of flaws, but by no means bad. It was a good win as I said in the other thread. Not a great one. Am hoping for the Bills to roll through their last 5 games (Cincy won't be easy). BTW that's how a fan thinks (be positive, which I am prior to every game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Doesn't fit some people's narrative. They are a decent team, not great, a lot of flaws, but by no means bad. It was a good win as I said in the other thread. Not a great one. Am hoping for the Bills to roll through their last 5 games (Cincy won't be easy). BTW that's how a fan thinks (be positive, which I am prior to every game). Where's proof that the 2007 Patriots dominated EVERY team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 every win can be analyzed and flaw can be found. that's just the nature of the game. looking for personal goal that you want a team to accomplish isn't worth the time. the only goal over the next month should be to win the game. i don't care if it's by 1 point or 30. Doesn't matter to me at all. this is getting to the point of being petty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, teef said: every win can be analyzed and flaw can be found. that's just the nature of the game. looking for personal goal that you want a team to accomplish isn't worth the time. the only goal over the next month should be to win the game. i don't care if it's by 1 point or 30. Doesn't matter to me at all. this is getting to the point of being petty. Did you see where I said no team in NFL history has dominated every single game? Then 1972 brings up the 2007 Pats as one team that did it even though they lost the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did you see where I said no team in NFL history has dominated every single game? Then 1972 brings up the 2007 Pats as one team that did it even though they lost the Super Bowl. "Ooh ooh, Teef, did you see how I schooled Billsfan1972?"😝 And I don't come on every week all upset and complaining. The Bills I have said have been off since the bye week. Now when people talk about SB favourites, the Bills are mentioned, but they are no longer the prohibative favouries, which they were after the KC game. Maybe a a good thing, but yes they haven't been "running on all cylinders" and as opposed to Teef, I think it is important they do have a few blowouts before the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did you see where I said no team in NFL history has dominated every single game? Then 1972 brings up the 2007 Pats as one team that did it even though they lost the Super Bowl. i'm not sure why it's even important. you don't have to be the most dominant team or the best team to win the super bowl. everything had to go just right at the right time, as the 2007 pats learned. this is getting so over the top. 2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: "Ooh ooh, Teef, did you see how I schooled Billsfan1972?"😝 And I don't come on every week all upset and complaining. The Bills I have said have been off since the bye week. Now when people talk about SB favourites, the Bills are mentioned, but they are no longer the prohibative favouries, which they were after the KC game. Maybe a a good thing, but yes they haven't been "running on all cylinders" and as opposed to Teef, I think it is important they do have a few blowouts before the playoffs. they could blow a few team out and still lose in the first round. this blow out nonsense is just like the 300 yard nonsense. wins are what's important. you'll have more than enough ammo to go after mcd if he doesn't win the next few games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: "Ooh ooh, Teef, did you see how I schooled Billsfan1972?"😝 And I don't come on every week all upset and complaining. The Bills I have said have been off since the bye week. Now when people talk about SB favourites, the Bills are mentioned, but they are no longer the prohibative favouries, which they were after the KC game. Maybe a a good thing, but yes they haven't been "running on all cylinders" and as opposed to Teef, I think it is important they do have a few blowouts before the playoffs. It's not about "schooling" you. It's to show you again, how incredibly unrealistic you are. The 2007 Pats is considered maybe the most talented team ever assembled. Only 1 of 2 teams in the history of the NFL to go undefeated in the regular season. Yet they struggled against a few bad teams that season and then lost the Super Bowl. So now you shifted the argument from needing to dominate every single game to wanting a few blow outs for the playoffs. Who gives a **** if they are Super Bowl favorites right now. Being #2 is unacceptable or something? Do you have to be Vegas favorites week 1 thru week 18 and never slip or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, teef said: i'm not sure why it's even important. you don't have to be the most dominant team or the best team to win the super bowl. everything had to go just right at the right time, as the 2007 pats learned. this is getting so over the top. they could blow a few team out and still lose in the first round. this blow out nonsense is just like the 300 yard nonsense. wins are what's important. you'll have more than enough ammo to go after mcd if he doesn't win the next few games. for me its about consistency... In our losses we have seen some maddening inconsistencies, and we have seen hese same inconsistencies in some of our wins. Like running the football, and taking the underneath stuff. This is one place I really liked what I saw vs the Pats, it was all working and the team was playing well in all phases. I do have the expectation that the BIlls would look sharp in all games this year especially the Jets and Miami... I expected a few losses this year... but its more about that ability to be consistent....The running game has not been so hopefully NE was a sign of things down the stretch As for winning the SB, I can help it I want there to be no doubt all year long.... I have some doubts so that kind of breeds the frustration.... I'm just hoping the stretch run here demonstrates we are ready and we are playing at home for the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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