NY Jets at Buffalo Bills, Sunday Dec 11 at 1 pm

[Greg S]

10 hours ago, Ta111 said:

Agreed. I’m taking the Bills and laying the points. I see a 31-14 type game.

 

In my office pool I took the Jets plus the points. The Jets are good. If they had a QB they would be really good. The Jets D is legit so they will keep them in the game. They are also fighting for their playoff lives and they treat the Bills games like it's their personal Super Bowl. I think by around 4:00 Sunday afternoon we will all be nervous hoping the Bills win. I do think the Bills will win but it will be close. Bills 23-20 is my guess.

10 hours ago, Ta111 said:

Agreed. I’m taking the Bills and laying the points. I see a 31-14 type game.

 

In my office pool I took the Jets plus the points. The Jets are good. If they had a QB they would be really good. The Jets D is legit so they will keep them in the game. They are also fighting for their playoff lives and they treat the Bills games like it's their personal Super Bowl. I think by around 4:00 Sunday afternoon we will all be nervous hoping the Bills win. I do think the Bills will win but it will be close. Bills 23-20 is my guess.

[Realist]

Dawkins said on GMFB he is playing 

[Johnnycage46]

4 minutes ago, Realist said:

Dawkins said on GMFB he is playing 

great, now he'll go on IR!  Joking obviously, but it does make you wonder how much control the players have over their ability to play through injuries (barring concussions which are supposed to be out of the players' hands).  Hopefully he plays...we need him against that Jet line.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

10 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

great, now he'll go on IR!  

I really hate that I laughed at that.  I guess it is a defense mechanism at this point!

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

great, now he'll go on IR!  Joking obviously, but it does make you wonder how much control the players have over their ability to play through injuries (barring concussions which are supposed to be out of the players' hands).  Hopefully he plays...we need him against that Jet line.

 

I think the players have a good bit of input.

 

For one thing, as "he I shall not name" once said, "it's the players choice to take a pain injection or not".  The NFLPA has come out against the use of Toradol for "anticipated pain" and against Toradol injections vs. the pill form, so the players do have the union behind them if the team tries to push them into it.

 

For another thing, they go through physical ability evaluations with the head trainer, sometimes pre-game, and they can influence what they show based on their personal pain tolerance and grit and how much adrenaline they have going on about wanting to play.

 

Sometimes I think it works against them and against the team - Milano played a game when he couldn't lift his arm to tackle partway through.  I'm sure he managed to show the head trainer a lifted arm pre-game but he probably only had so many arm lifts he could manage with that partially torn pec.

 

For a third thing, several here have told stories about doing some work in a player's house, or being invited to a gathering as the friend of a friend, and seeing a player who was just injured NOT doing common sense things to take care of a known injury.  I think in one anecdote, the guy was playing video games and it wasn't until his wife came home that she brought him a bag of ice and a footstool to elevate his ankle.  So how seriously and carefully the player follows what they're told to do by the trainers and physicians probably has a big influence as well.

 

I know we got my daughter recovered from a Grade II ankle sprain and able to play volleyball in under a week though she lost some height on her blocks for more like 2-3. The trainers said they'd never seen a sprain clear so fast, but it was really Hell for her - cold bath for 20 minutes once an hour is uncomfortable and eventually painful to the skin, the rest of the stuff like elevation, compression, arnica massage disrupted her preferred routine.  It wasn't a Fun Time at all for her to stick to that routine for 48 hrs post injury.  But it clearly made a difference to recovery vs. another player who might not have stuck it out.

 

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I had a hard time following that with my ADD. 

 

Thank you.  It makes me feel a bit better that I'm not the only one "left out" by that and even more obscure Bills Social Media productions.

 

I'm sure to the relevant target demographic, they're killing it.

[Chaos]

This game is a great sports psychology study.  The Bills should bear the Jets at home fairly easily.  In the past several years the Bills have struggled being front runners. A win in this game is evidence they have overcome this psychological block.  

Edited December 9, 2022 by Chaos

[CNYfan]

If all pro lano is out my curiosity will be to the snaps our 3rd round draft choice receives and how he performs in that game action.  

[balln]

5 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

If all pro lano is out my curiosity will be to the snaps our 3rd round draft choice receives and how he performs in that game action.  

Curiosity = downright dread. He sucks. Looks like a special teams/JAG. 

[K-9]

37 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

If all pro lano is out my curiosity will be to the snaps our 3rd round draft choice receives and how he performs in that game action.  

I’m sure he will perform admirably watching Klein get most of the reps next to Edmunds.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Milano not definitely out. McDermott just said only Phillips and Gilliam are out for sure. That’s a good sign 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Roundybout]

5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Milano not definitely out. McDermott just said only Phillips and Gilliam are out for sure. That’s a good sign 

If he played the whole NE game with the injury I feel much better.  When did Phillips turn into such a glass cannon though?

Edited December 9, 2022 by Roundybout

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[hemma]

Wonder if they had to drain some fluid from his knee.

Sure some of these guys wouldn’t object to an extra bye week.

[Beck Water]

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I'm sure when McDermott was questioned today, there was no follow-up to how serious/how long Jordan Phillips will be out. 

 

Maybe the answer would be day to day, but I'm sure we moved on to talking about how much snow is left in McDermott's driveway. 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I'm sure when McDermott was questioned today, there was no follow-up to how serious/how long Jordan Phillips will be out. 

 

Maybe the answer would be day to day, but I'm sure we moved on to talking about how much snow is left in McDermott's driveway. 

 

Can you explain why this is so important to you?

[Big C]

I can’t believe 97 is going to miss time because of that dumb dive.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Can you explain why this is so important to you?

Because you get 8-minutes with the Head Coach. 

 

4 of them are spent talking about Christmas, snow, staying up late and watching movies, what he ate for dinner. 

 

At 7-9 nobody cares if a rotational DT misses games. At 9-3 coming off a game where the team you're playing ran it down your throat when they needed to, injuries are more important. 

 

Generic feelings questions provide no insight to anything. Having Josh Allen explain why he loves Stefon Diggs as a person provides nothing to talk about tactically about the team.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Straight Hucklebuck