BarleyNY Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 One other thought: After a certain team achievement is reached* players often focus more on their contracts. One hopes the Bills have that issue after this season concludes. * Note the skillful jinx avoidance Quote
T master Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 I don't know that the Bills offer will be enough to keep him here there is little team loyalty when there is a boat load of money shoved in your bank account . Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Milano plus inflation is the highest I’d go. 1 2 Quote
Bruffalo Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: Milano plus inflation is the highest I’d go. That's where I'm at, but I doubt it's enough to keep him here. Quote
LeGOATski Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 The Bills will pay him in the top 5 of ILBs and I won't disagree. He's always been an integral part of this defense. I think we see the Bills LB spending go up and safety spending go down. But one thing is for sure, the Bills will continue spending on defense. 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted December 5, 2022 Author Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Thanks everybody for voting and opinions. I started this thread having no clue and I still don't have any I think that he gets $17-18M on open market but I don't want to pay him that much. And I don't think he gives us much of a discount. Another thing to consider is that Milano signed $42/4 just 2 years ago. How will he respond if Edmunds gets much more? Do we think that he is actually worth much more? One thing I have in mind is Taron Johnson. Lately I was thinking that he might become cap casualty if we extend Edmunds. Before this season I didn't think this was an option, but now I do. We can save roughly $7M if we release him post June 1 with $2,5M dead cap in 2024. Since our cap will be really tight next year, I really can imagine that those $7M might become handy. And if you are Beane and can choose between keeping Taron and letting TE go, and keeping Edmunds, cutting Taron and replacing him with Neal/cheap FA/5th round draft pick, I can see him going this direction. Just a thought. EDIT: Oh and if we keep Edmunds then Poyer has no chance to stay imo. But that is probably fine with me (I love Poyer as a player but you can't pay everyone). Keep Edmunds, let Poyer and Johnson go. Edited December 5, 2022 by No_Matter_What Quote
FilthyBeast Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Regardless of your stance on Edmunds, he's going to get @ $20 million per year because that's how the FA game works. So the real question is if you are Beane and the front office are you willing to pay that? And the answer is absolutely not and they know they can't anyway. Quote
BullBuchanan Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 I'd give him $6-$8. Why should he make as much as Milano when Milano is the far superior player? Quote
Thurman#1 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Chaos said: It is very hard to say. Its pretty clear Edmunds is better than who ever backs him up on the Bills. But if we don't keep him, we will replace him with someone not on the roster today. Would we better off with a different starting quality mlb in the for 8 or 10 million per year less than Edmunds and using the money to upgrade the oline. Bills oline is not even NFL average at this point. Protecting Josh Allen needs to be the priority in any long term plan. Bills o-line is slightly above average at this point. The D would be a lot worse without him. You only have to look at how they've played when he's not here. That's not something that only started this yearl Quote
Chaos Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Bills o-line is slightly above average at this point. The D would be a lot worse without him. You only have to look at how they've played when he's not here. That's not something that only started this yearl I know we are supposed to hate PFF but they are one of the only sites that rank olives. They rank the bills below average at 22nd. Probably more reliable than your eye test of a couple of games per week. 1 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Home town discount. 5 years 30 million. Thanks in advance Tremaine, much appreciated. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Have to pay Oliver too. Expensive off-season. Quote
hemma Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 $15 per for 4 yrs. Maybe throw in a COLA as a small nudge, $36 guaranteed. Quote
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 He’s not better than Milano so I would pay him off the Milano contract. 4 years 50mil 30 mil guaranteed. The increase is not because he is better than Milano it is because of his youth and projected cap increase. Quote
No_Matter_What Posted December 6, 2022 Author Posted December 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: He’s not better than Milano so I would pay him off the Milano contract. 4 years 50mil 30 mil guaranteed. The increase is not because he is better than Milano it is because of his youth and projected cap increase. This would be beyond amazing. Not gonna happen though. Quote
noacls Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 Oliver>Edmunds I he stops you from keeping Oliver let him walk 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Chaos said: I know we are supposed to hate PFF but they are one of the only sites that rank olives. They rank the bills below average at 22nd. Probably more reliable than your eye test of a couple of games per week. The Bills oline is MUCH more like the 22nd best in the league than it is "just above average." It is "just below average"... 22nd feels fair enough. 1 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 I have him at 13.5 million a year. Would put him just about top five at his position. Given his play this year he is probably in the 5-6 range of players at his position. Take the Shaq Thompson salary of 13,540,000 annually adjust for the salary cap going up to 225,000,000 that puts you at 14,632,564, adjust again for playing time missed over a sample size of three years (86% games played) leaves you at 12,584,000, give him the extra million for percentage of snaps and I think 13.5 million is a good number for the guy. Tremaine is probably young enough to get two mega contracts in his time in the NFL barring injury. Hate that the Jets, Colts, and 49ers paid their ILBs 19 million plus, just absolutely stupid money. Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) I feel dumber after reading some of the comments in this thread. Thanks I guess? Yes, you retain your pro bowl LB that has improved every year. I know it pisses people off because they don't want to be wrong, but oh well. People are forgetting the fact the cap is going up to 220-230 mill next year. They will end up retaining both Edmunds and Oliver Edited December 6, 2022 by Dablitzkrieg 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 15 mil seems fair for both sides. Quote
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