OL Pass blocking was terrible times vs. NE & Drops - But a comfortable win

[nucci]

A little frustrated they didn't put this game away in 1st half but I was never really worried. Our D was playing great and Pats were really bad

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

While in the general sense I agree... I actually think last night was one of the least Josh-centric performances of the last few years. He only had to make that one incredible Davis play. Otherwise the Bills did a good job of keeping Josh in favourable situations for the most part, the slot guys, backs and tight ends got open for the short stuff, they ran the ball well and the defense shut the other team down. 

 

That 50+ yard ho hum, scramble out of the pocket, flick your wrist while on a dead run and hit Diggs for a TD, ala the Jalen Ramsey play in the first game was pretty special too...but kinda almost expected at this point so it's more like a routine play. A hold that didn't even need to happen erased it, but still...what a play.

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

The pass blocking was so bad to start it kind of forced them into running more. Which was a good thing. Once the offense got some balance though I felt like they did a much better job. Obvious passing downs were brutal still. 

If you notice, the up the gut stuff was far better than those sideways end arounds!

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Zach Wilson is not Josh Allen.....  Allowing Josh Allen & the Bills time consuming drives (or 2 minute scoring drives) should happen all the time.

 

Allowing a Zach Wilson led NYJ to gash you defense is not good.  

 

Did we gash the Patriots last night?

 

[BillzFreak]

7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Sigh called terrible O coaching! The other teams were literally calling out the O plays, the media actually got hold of that before the Vikings game and BB admitted it’s been going on for SEVERAL weeks. Hard to execute the play when they know what’s coming. Last week they changed it up was more the OLD patriots O and look at that they moved the ball and scored a lot and probably have more if not for drops and Aghalor slowing down on a perfectly thrown deep ball.  Last night the O calling was pathetic again! They had 1 drive where they called it like last week then they went brain dead.. 

 

Amazing how a Bills fan can’t tell that O coaches can make or break a QB. Hell look at Gino Smith now, he looks amazing in Seattle.. but looked like hot garbage in NY Jets. Why? COACHING.
 

 

Again you can blame the playcalling all you want, I should of said in my opinion on saying he is very bad. But that's my opinion and you have yours. But I've watched enough bad qb play being a Bills fan and what I see from Mac I've seen from bad Qbs that have played here.

[Dillenger4]

33 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

"Justin Jefferson only has 2 drops and Diggs has 6"

"Jets only gave up 3 points to the Pats"

"When the Pats scored 22 on the Jets the first time, it was unimpressive"

"Defense played well BUT no turnovers and only one sack"

"Sorry, only 24 is just okay too".

 

 

And quit being delusional that only 3-4 people criticize your threads.  You are the most criticized poster on the board outside of IronMaiden and Einstein but they've both improved....what's your excuse?

And BINGO! The OP get's wrecked!

The Bills played an all out, perfect team game. Were there drops? Yes, just like in EVERY NFL game. Is it an issue? Hell no. We got the W.

Our D played amazing!

Our banged up O line controlled the game.

Josh was MVP again.

We did what we wanted to a division foe. 

OP - get wrecked baby boy.

[balln]

34 minutes ago, BillyBilliams said:

We didn't have to rely on Josh being amazing.  The offense all clicked together and made enough plays to dominate New England.  Quessenberry was more brutal than I expected, but that's what happens when you have a "flexible" lineman.  He'll struggle on a lot of times.  There is a reason why he's a backup.  But man, we cannot put him at LT again.  They need to find someone, anyone, that can play somewhat thay position.

We absolutely have to rely on Josh Allen to be amazing. Flip pass to Hines while getting crushed. Run up the middle leap in red zone. Pin point throw to diggs for td. BRO - the play to gabe Davis for td. Wtf are you talking about. Constantly under pressure/ almost never has clean pockets. Yea we didn’t throw it 50 times for 400 And he had 4 td and 2 rushing td. Not that same thing

[PatsFanNH]

22 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:

Again you can blame the playcalling all you want, I should have said in my opinion on saying he is very bad. But that's my opinion and you have yours. But I've watched enough bad qb play being a Bills fan and what I see from Mac I've seen from bad Qbs that have played here.

 Will say what I always say about Jones. It’s to dang early tell. He could be a bust or he could be good.  I don’t think he will ever be too 10 but he could be a serviceable Starting QB with a good team around him.. hell I like see him just once with a top WR. I am sure you were like everyone else about Tua as well and this year he is an MVP candidate.. 

[GunnerBill]

48 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

That 50+ yard ho hum, scramble out of the pocket, flick your wrist while on a dead run and hit Diggs for a TD, ala the Jalen Ramsey play in the first game was pretty special too...but kinda almost expected at this point so it's more like a routine play. A hold that didn't even need to happen erased it, but still...what a play.

 

I think Sweeney grabbed straight away on that play. If he doesn't hold the guy penetrates the space Josh wants to escape into. 

[Billsfan1972]

30 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

And BINGO! The OP get's wrecked!

The Bills played an all out, perfect team game. Were there drops? Yes, just like in EVERY NFL game. Is it an issue? Hell no. We got the W.

Our D played amazing!

Our banged up O line controlled the game.

Josh was MVP again.

We did what we wanted to a division foe. 

OP - get wrecked baby boy.

5 Dropped passes at least is normal every week?  GTFOH

Wow the Bills had 355 Yards offense....   Wow what a dominating performance.....😂

 

We punted vs. NE, something they didn't do the previous 8 quarters vs. them😉.

 

It was a nice win, but still work to do.

 

Just win they did and I brought up two things I saw. 

[Dillenger4]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

5 Dropped passes at least is normal every week?  GTFOH

Wow the Bills had 355 Yards offense....   Wow what a dominating performance.....😂

 

We punted vs. NE, something they didn't do the previous 8 quarters vs. them😉.

 

It was a nice win, but still work to do.

 

Just win they did and I brought up two things I saw. 

Please enjoy the win. STOP with your crusade. We are 9-3 and have been really banged up. Yes injuries are a part of football but we seem to have caught the bug bad this year.

"We punted vs NE"  Really?!? That's your beef?

Yes, there is always work to do. Clearly you have work to do too. We are not your therapist. I suggest you get one and change your attitude.

[Big Turk]

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Sweeney grabbed straight away on that play. If he doesn't hold the guy penetrates the space Josh wants to escape into. 

 

I like my chances Allen gets away from him.

[Billsfan1972]

10 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Please enjoy the win. STOP with your crusade. We are 9-3 and have been really banged up. Yes injuries are a part of football but we seem to have caught the bug bad this year.

"We punted vs NE"  Really?!? That's your beef?

Yes, there is always work to do. Clearly you have work to do too. We are not your therapist. I suggest you get one and change your attitude.

What crusade?  

 

Humour elude you on the Punt joke (vs. NE)?  After two weeks our punter appeared was going to be the 2020's equivalent of the Maytag Repair Man.

 

I didn't make a big deal about the game, have in other posts laughed that we are concerned over a 9-3 record.

 

I mentioned as said that the blocking was not great and that 5 drops is an awful lot in a game (and fortunately didn't matter "THIS" game).

 

A critical eye will also point out other things, but I have only mentioned them when questioned.

[Billsfan1972]

Chip off the old block my son.  Came down this morning and said.  Easy win, but really they did not play too well and OL blocking was terrible. 

[Royale with Cheese]

5 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

5 Dropped passes at least is normal every week?  GTFOH

Wow the Bills had 355 Yards offense....   Wow what a dominating performance.....😂

 

We punted vs. NE, something they didn't do the previous 8 quarters vs. them😉.

 

It was a nice win, but still work to do.

 

Just win they did and I brought up two things I saw. 

 

You said the Jets gashed us on defense....they had 310 yards.  But mock our 355.

You said the Jets gashed us because they controlled the ball so long. 

They controlled the ball for 32 minutes.  We controlled the ball for 38 minutes yesterday.  But the Bills are mocked for 355 yards but the Jets gashed us for 310...got it.

[CDogg20]

7 hours ago, Chuck Schick said:

Good Lord....someone is actually finding something to complain about with Stefon Diggs after what he's produced last night and all year.  Unreal.

Agree, if anything we should be talking about Gabe Davis. 2 reception on 7 targets. Gabes hands havent been as reliable as they used to be for some reason? By no means am I saying run Gabe outta town it’s just concerning that its not his first stat line like that this season

[GoBills808]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

While in the general sense I agree... I actually think last night was one of the least Josh-centric performances of the last few years. He only had to make that one incredible Davis play. Otherwise the Bills did a good job of keeping Josh in favourable situations for the most part, the slot guys, backs and tight ends got open for the short stuff, they ran the ball well and the defense shut the other team down. 

Did you miss the shovel pass to Hines or something

 

Or the multiple scrambles in key spots that we've just become accustomed to

 

This offense could not function without Allen being the best athlete in the field every game

[Billsfan1972]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You said the Jets gashed us on defense....they had 310 yards.  But mock our 355.

You said the Jets gashed us because they controlled the ball so long. 

They controlled the ball for 32 minutes.  We controlled the ball for 38 minutes yesterday.  But the Bills are mocked for 355 yards but the Jets gashed us for 310...got it.

Congrats comparing Josh Allen with Zach Wilson......  Got it....

 

NYJ Offense also stacks up well with Buffalo Bills offense.  

 

The Jets should have been blown out of the water, but the Bills Defense made Zach Wilson look good.

 

So now you expect so little out of the Bill offense that 355 yards is a really good performance? 

 

Sorry that I expect more. 

[Billsfan1972]

10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Did you miss the shovel pass to Hines or something

 

Or the multiple scrambles in key spots that we've just become accustomed to

 

This offense could not function without Allen being the best athlete in the field every game

Yes people seem to overlook how many times Josh bails them out.  

 

Tom Brady probably is sacked 6 times yesterday and scores 10 points.

 

After the first 3 drives, there was the 94 drive and the rest was certainly disjointed.

 

The Bills were 9-15 on third down and mostly because Josh had to make plays.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Billsfan1972

[Royale with Cheese]

25 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Congrats comparing Josh Allen with Zach Wilson......  Got it....

 

NYJ Offense also stacks up well with Buffalo Bills offense.  

 

The Jets should have been blown out of the water, but the Bills Defense made Zach Wilson look good.

 

So now you expect so little out of the Bill offense that 355 yards is a really good performance? 

 

Sorry that I expect more. 

Im not comparing them.  You’re moving parameters like you always do.

 

I guess Gabe Davis performance wasn’t good against the Steelers because he only had 3 catches.  Ignore every other stat.

3 for 3 in the redzone, 9 for 15 on 3rd down and held the ball for 38 minutes….none of that matters.  You cherry pick one stat that doesn’t look good and poof…we didn’t play that well.  Geezus.

 

This is the #1 DVOA defense in the NFL and we dominated them.

 

You expect perfection across the board every week.  The Bills don’t live in your unrealistic expectations and you become critical of them.

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by Royale with Cheese