Groot musings

[MarlinTheMagician]

He was fantastic.  What a difference with Groot, Edmunds and Tre White.  Groot is a star, and he is going to be a superstar.

[The Firebaugh Kid]

The dline did great, had Mac rattled all game, stopped the run. Great job. 

[BreezeMafia]

8 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

He’s the best player on that defense IMO and he’s going to get a monster contract in a few years - like $150M type contract.  He’s an absolute game wrecker.  I could not be higher on him .

Agree.  He was the best D lineman tonight.  Was really great to see all the young D Line studs own the line of scrimmage

[Bockeye]

Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game?  

[Warriorspikes51]

3 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game?  

I thought he collapsed the pocket often. Drew at least 1 holding call maybe 2.  

D-line pressured Mac on 39% of his dropbacks. 

[PrimeTime101]

8 hours ago, Simon said:

 

He's 22 and not even a man yet.

He's going to hurt somebody eventually. 

lol good stuff!

[AmishRifle]

16 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game?  

There were some significant line stunts going on the entire game.  I haven’t watched the All-22 but I think Ed played a big role in some of those middle pressures using the stunts.

[Big Blitz]

He was awesome last night.  

[Big Turk]

9 hours ago, boyst said:

Talked to a wake trainer a few months ago who promised good things to come from him and that he's not hit the ceiling at all. Last year he was too big. Bills want him 270ish

 

Dude is still raw...he didn't even play in the year he got drafted in college and the year before that he was a raw freshman who simply dominated with athleticism. Unlimited potential...and Von knows it.

42 minutes ago, AmishRifle said:

There were some significant line stunts going on the entire game.  I haven’t watched the All-22 but I think Ed played a big role in some of those middle pressures using the stunts.

 

I swear I can't remember watching another team have as many "almost sacks" that make you wonder "How did the QB escape?!?!?" over the last 5 years as the Bills have had...every game it seems they have 3 or 4 that other teams would get.  Literally felt the only reason AJE got that sack last night was Mac Jones basically ran right into him and forced him to sack him.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Big Turk

[RiotAct]

10 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight...

 

Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen.

Jones was also a magician at escaping pressure last night!

 

However, unlike Lamar Jackson, he didn’t really try any actual runs past the LOS.

 

 And unlike Mahomes and Jacoby Brissett against us, his passing under pressure sucked bigtime

[Shaw66]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

tl;dr

I am Von

 

 

Rousseau was clearly not healthy tonight and spent 90% of the game holding an edge and protecting himself.

Then later in crunch time he started sticking that foot in the ground and getting after people for real.

It was the sort of game you occasionally see from another veteran DE that recently entered the Bills locker room.

 

 

I thought something similar.  He turned it up a notch in the fourth quarter.  Had a couple of amazing bull rushes, like Miller.   

 

He still needs to learn to finish like Miller does, but other than that, he's a force when he's on the field.   The deflection of that pass to the right flat was a combination of his exceptional length and great eye-hand coordination.   

[TN Bills Fan]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

tl;dr

I am Von

 

 

Rousseau was clearly not healthy tonight and spent 90% of the game holding an edge and protecting himself.

Then later in crunch time he started sticking that foot in the ground and getting after people for real.

It was the sort of game you occasionally see from another veteran DE that recently entered the Bills locker room.

 

 

Dead on.  Thought i was the only one that noticed the way Miller plays.  That’s who he is learning from.

[AmishRifle]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I swear I can't remember watching another team have as many "almost sacks" that make you wonder "How did the QB escape?!?!?" over the last 5 years as the Bills have had...every game it seems they have 3 or 4 that other teams would get.  Literally felt the only reason AJE got that sack last night was Mac Jones basically ran right into him and forced him to sack him.

I don’t get it either.  It has to be coaching.  Every one of our D-lineman seem to not be able to tackle the QB except for Von.  It’s almost like they are overly concerned with keeping contain or something and this causes them to take weird angles and not go for the tackle.  It’s quite odd.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, AmishRifle said:

I don’t get it either.  It has to be coaching.  Every one of our D-lineman seem to not be able to tackle the QB except for Von.  It’s almost like they are overly concerned with keeping contain or something and this causes them to take weird angles and not go for the tackle.  It’s quite odd.

 

They also dive at the QB a lot when it looks like they would be better off just going in for a normal upright tackle attempt

[BillsShredder83]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

That's interesting.  I see some Mario Williams in Groot.  But Mario probably played about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than 270.  The Bills must sense some hidden athleticism in Groot.  

 

And, I agree with the sense here that the kid is special now and is going to be even more special down the road.  

Very Mario- esque, love to see it. 

[cba fan]

12 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Could have gotten 2 or 3 sacks tonight...

 

Bills DEs other than Miller have a knack for getting more almost sacks and "how the hell did he escape??" plays than any team I have ever seen.

it's like the ghost of Jerry Hughes still lingers........😂

[RoyBatty is alive]

4 hours ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

The dline did great, had Mac rattled all game, stopped the run. Great job. 

Yep, he was rattled and it was great to see Mac Jones screaming at the O linemen.

[Buffalo Junction]

4 hours ago, Bockeye said:

Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game?  

One intentional grounding away from from having a safety in back to back weeks (ball spot depending).

[Utah John]

We always hear about how line play requires people to get low, to get leverage against their opponent.  Usually that's true.  So how can Groot be as good as he obviously is against the run, when he's so tall?

 

The Bills have assembled a defense of unicorns, guys with special skills or attributes.  Either huge space-eating bodies like Edmunds and Groot, or quickness and strength like Oliver, or speed and anticipation like Milano, or all of the above for Dr Poyer and Mr Hyde.  Oh yeah, Tre White is back.  Von Miller gets back in a few weeks.  Please God we've had all the injuries a team should have to endure.  It's time for good things to happen.

9 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Yep, he was rattled and it was great to see Mac Jones screaming at the O linemen.

I have NEVER seen Josh Allen berating a teammate in public, and I don't expect to ever do so.  Leadership comes from doing your own job well, and inspiring those around you to do the same.

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, Bockeye said:

Not to hijack, but where was Ed Oliver, esp after that monster game?  

 

The Patriots TRIPLED him on some plays last night. It is why the edges ate. They had 1v1s all night.