I’m kind of Over the Hines Experiment

[Mr. WEO]

I was working.  Missed most of the game?

 

Did he explode?

[ElMarko]

55 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think one of the things that makes Hines continue to feel intriguing is that Cook still really hasn't looked like a good ballcarrier yet.

He's a better passcatcher than Motor but unless he has a gaping hole even front of him, he cant get into the second level.

Hines is probably even a better ballcatcher than Cook and if he can run into the 4 and 6 hole he might be a better option than the rookie right now

Cook is averaging over 5.5 yards per carry. You’re obviously incorrect. 

[Saxum]

5 minutes ago, ElMarko said:

Cook is averaging over 5.5 yards per carry. You’re obviously incorrect. 

 

Averages are not a basis.  They were used different times in different situations/

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

2 hours ago, Big C said:

I mean this guy has never been an elite player. Decent pass catcher and injury fill-in like McKissic, Perine, etc. He is actually a very good returner and we have seen that so far. NE also plays good teams year in and year out so today doesn’t count. 
 

We traded a 6th and an incredibly unproductive RB for him, what did we think we were getting? He will have a role and make some plays but we are still figuring out what we can do with him. We have barely practiced with him. 
 

Instead, why don’t we focus on how much better Cook has been and how we now have the luxury of a Hines as RB3.

 

If this guy was with Brady he'd be lighting teams up, this guy is a pass catching specialist and I really hope they start utilizing him because he has the jets to take it to the house on any given play. I hear all the time that Josh Allen misses Beasley in the slot. No reason both he and McKenzie can't become another security blanket.

[Kwai San]

2 hours ago, Nelius said:

Exactly how I feel. Although his returns today were pretty lame compared to previous. Still feels potentially more successful than the Jamison Crowder experiment.

 

All boiled down to a crappy punter.....short kicks with good coverage by man with long hair rage!!!

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Idk about ya’ll but I was excited about the additional of Nyheim Hines.

 

It seems they’ve slowly, and finally started to work him into the game plan. He was heavily involved early, and then McKenzie started to take over those snaps.

 

It seemed like every sweep, handoff, or target was sniffed out, or went no where. I wonder if there was some sort of formation tell, or they keyed into him based on personnel or usage, but it just flat out stunk.

 

I’m not a huge McKenzie guy, but age again had a solid game. 
 

Im kind of over this trade. Let him return kicks and get touches here and there, and revisit this in the off-season.

 

Singletary is my guy. Let’s let him and Cook take it the rest of the way. 

 

He's a solid returner. It's not like he's useless. Don't be so quick to abandon him. He's been with the Bills for what? Three weeks?

[Rat-boy]

27 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

He's a solid returner. It's not like he's useless. Don't be so quick to abandon him. He's been with the Bills for what? Three weeks?

C’mon PTR. You know way better than to bring a rational take to this board. Don’t mention the fact that half that time they didn’t practise enough to install him in the offense. It’ll bring the “we won but we really lost” trolls out.

 

I really miss Hogboy.

[Richard Noggin]

Locked up for 2 more seasons after 2022 at reasonable cap figures? I'd say there's room for patience, especially with Singletary, who can't catch, entering FA after the year.

[davefan66]

I like that I don’t have to hold my breath on returns.  Dude is dependable on making the right decision and handles the ball well.  Has shown an ability to get yards on punts and KO’s.

 

Can’t blame him for the runs to the left. I don’t know if it was poor design, players missed assignments, or bad design.  Probably some of all of the above.  Dude has speed and would like to see him get the ball more than a few times in a game before saying he can’t run.  A couple of runs in a game doesn’t given RB enough to get a feel.  
 

End all is, Singletary may be a cap casualty next year.  If so, Hines is going nowhere.  Especially because he does what this team covets - multiple roles.

[billieve420]

Even if he doesn’t end up doing much on offense this year. Having him return kicks is a huge improvement. I personally would like him to split out wide more and be used as check down option for Josh. Cook while athletic seems very uncoordinated and scares me running pass routes out there.

[GunnerBill]

I certainly don't want him running the ball. He is not as good as our other two backs. Equally I don't really want us throwing it to old stone hands Singletary so there may still be some snaps for him. 

 

He has been solid as a return guy.

[Shortchaz]

If the last few games didn’t spell it out clearly enough, they’re ramping up the running game (especially the usage of cook) for the playoffs. It’s going to be cook/singletary, with Hines being the backup in case either go down. Cook is going to play a major role in this team’s success/failure in the postseason. 

[RocCityRoller]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I certainly don't want him running the ball. He is not as good as our other two backs. Equally I don't really want us throwing it to old stone hands Singletary so there may still be some snaps for him. 

 

He has been solid as a return guy.

 

Singletary has caught 31 of 40 passes. 77.5% catch rate. How is that Stone hands?

I think that is top 3 on the team.

 

13 of those 31 receptions have gone for 1st downs. (41%)

The avg is 6.9 yards per catch, not mind blowing, but still solid.

 

No one will argue he is Thurman Thomas or Marshall Faulk, but 'stone hands'?

 

This is such an odd place after a win.

[artmalibu]

I thought I saw 1 play last night with Hines and cook in the backfield, could be some interesting wrinkles down the road...

[LyndonvilleBill]

I don't think he is an experiment.  I think he is being used exactly how they planned. Took McKenzie and Shakir off KR/PR duties so they could focus on playing WR. Backup RB and available if needed.  Gets a few plays on O and can also backup McKenzie on some of the gadget plays. Could also be a chess piece when it comes to negotiating with Motor.🤔. Maybe I'm just more of a Glass Half Full kind of guy.😉

[GunnerBill]

33 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

Singletary has caught 31 of 40 passes. 77.5% catch rate. How is that Stone hands?

I think that is top 3 on the team.

 

13 of those 31 receptions have gone for 1st downs. (41%)

The avg is 6.9 yards per catch, not mind blowing, but still solid.

 

No one will argue he is Thurman Thomas or Marshall Faulk, but 'stone hands'?

 

This is such an odd place after a win.

 

He dropped two last night. He has, otherwise, been better as a pass catcher recently. But man he has some stupid concentration drops. 

[Chandler#81]

7 hours ago, Malazan said:

This forum needs a "Are you ok, like emotionally?" emote. 

Indeed. I recommend using @Gugny’s avatar to imply it. He’s the reigning champ at that. Just pop in the Mets mascot will get the message across.

[Captain Hindsight]

I miss having the threads about who to trade Zach Moss and a 5th for. What an amazing time to be alive!

[Rc2catch]

I think there’s more coming for Hines. They tried to get him more involved but New England blew up his couple designed plays. 
They’ve been running this formation for a couple weeks with cook in the backfield and Hines in motion. It’s been a run to cook almost every time (I think Allen kept a couple) and it’s been successful gains. I’m sure there’s more to it once defenses sell out to stop the runs.

[wjag]

7 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

 

Im kind of over this trade. Let him return kicks and get touches here and there, and revisit this in the off-season.

 

 

 

All I know is I used to hold my breath on every punt.  Now I don't worry no more.