Figuring out Knox

[Wizard]

I am curious the opinion everyone has on Knox's role in this offense.

 

The guy is being paid a good chunk of change to average 2-3 catches a game and will probably have 500 receiving yards or less this season.

 

Tonight he had zero catches, and I believe one target.

 

Is he overrated? Is he not used properly? I know the Bills are not known for having top flight TE's. I am just trying to figure out if he's fools gold or if a package of plays need to be catered to utilize him.

 

What say ye?

 

He is just a puzzling and polarizing player in this offense in my view.

 

 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

He's a blocking TE because we had a turnstile and a potato at OT today.

Edited December 2, 2022 by SageAgainstTheMachine

[Brand J]

Bad contract, he’s never shown the ability to take over a game. And still struggles with drops. 

[Beck Water]

On 12/1/2022 at 10:48 PM, Wizard said:

I am curious the opinion everyone has on Knox's role in this offense.

 

The guy is being paid a good chunk of change to average 2-3 catches a game and will probably have 500 receiving yards or less this season.

 

Tonight he had zero catches, and I believe one target.

 

Is he overrated? Is he not used properly? I know the Bills are not known for having top flight TE's. I am just trying to figure out if he's fools gold or if a package of plays need to be catered to utilize him.

 

What say ye?

 

He is just a puzzling and polarizing player in this offense in my view.

 

 

 

He can contribute when he’s used.  Against Detroit, he had what, 7 catches for 70 yards? [EDIT: I was mistaken, that was the Browns game]

 

My personal theory is that he’s struggling mentally, still trying to process and deal with his brother’s death.  He seems to be really enjoying the blocking aspect of the game, and he slowly seems to be coming back into the passing game.

 

I think tonight he was busy blocking

Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

He's a blocking TE because we had a turnstile and a potato at OT today.

I think turnstile and potato is the morning crew at weei

[Not at the table Karlos]

He was open at least 4 times today where Josh for whatever reason never looked his way.

[Awwufelloff]

He was signed to that contract to make Allen happy as they are good friends. That's all I have as he's not worth anywhere near that contract.

[Johnnycage46]

9 and 3 baby!!!!

[KingBoots8]

He’s had a bigger role blocking this year I think, and to be honest I’m not sure if this year is going to be a huge “numbers” year for him given his off-season. He will get back to form, but he’s got to get through it on his own time.

 

My theory: he’s gonna show up for a big play in the post season that will completely overshadow his regular seas woes. 

[Warcodered]

Feels like he can get open, and when he's targeted he catches the ball. Hell in the previous game against the Pats he was an inch short of having 3TDs.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, KingBoots8 said:

My theory: he’s gonna show up for a big play in the post season that will completely overshadow his regular seas woes. 

 

Yeah, it almost feels like they're keeping that part of their game stashed in teh bank, like they do with the run game for long stretches and then torture unprepared teams with it when games get bigger.

I can see him being a giant pain in somebody's ass during the first playoff game.

[RiotAct]

5 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

9 and 3 baby!!!!

we’re on to the Jets!

[AlfaBill]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

He can contribute when he’s used.  Against Detroit, he had what, 7 catches for 70 yards?

 

My personal theory is that he’s struggling mentally, still trying to process and deal with his brother’s death.  He seems to be really enjoying the blocking aspect of the game, and he slowly seems to be coming back into the passing game.

 

I think tonight he was busy blocking

This. So many people forget the great plays people make and focus on the bad. Also losing a brother cannot be easy. I think he’s a very good TE who can catch, run tough and block well. If every team threw out every player who struggled how would you stay competitive?

 

Gabe on the other hand?

Edited December 2, 2022 by AlfaBill

[Malazan]

I think there's two things.. 

 

1. Unimaginable tragedy at the start of the year

2. He's being asked to do more in a blocking role as the offensive line is utterly putrid

[ghostwriter]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

He can contribute when he’s used.  Against Detroit, he had what, 7 catches for 70 yards?

 

My personal theory is that he’s struggling mentally, still trying to process and deal with his brother’s death.  He seems to be really enjoying the blocking aspect of the game, and he slowly seems to be coming back into the passing game.

 

I think tonight he was busy blocking

I agree. The reason why Knox is struggling is highly understandable.

[Freddie's Dead]

We want Dawesome, but Dropsome came to play tonight.  Right now dude is a Dow Joneser.

[947]

He dropped his only target. But he's been pretty good blocking, I bet the 2nd Diggs TD would've counted if Knox had been there instead of Sweeney.

[Beck Water]

8 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

This. So many people forget the great plays people make and focus on the bad. Also losing a brother cannot be easy. I think he’s a very good TE who can catch, run tough and block well. If every team threw out every player who struggled how would you stay competitive?

 

Gabe on the other hand?

 

When Knox caught that TD at the back of the EZ, Diggs in the postgame said something to the effect of “mental health is real” and he was glad for Knox to get that.  Which is why I think there’s something to the mental struggles idea.

 

TBH, I felt better about Gabe in this game.  Did he have one ball he should have caught and didn’t?  Josh was a little rushed and overthrew him for the deep ball and either overthrew him or he was a little held on his route in the end zone.  But that catch for the TD was unreal.  

 

5 minutes ago, 947 said:

He dropped his only target. But he's been pretty good blocking, I bet the 2nd Diggs TD would've counted if Knox had been there instead of Sweeney.

 

Yes.

Edited December 2, 2022 by Beck Water

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Let's not over think this. He's the same exact player he has always been. Only difference is the TD's dried up. That shouldn't be a surprise. TD's are less predictive year over year than receptions and yardage totals. He averaged 3.3 receptions per game last year. And this year he is averaging... 3.3 receptions per game.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

19 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

He was open at least 4 times today where Josh for whatever reason never looked his way.

agree. He could have easily had like 5-7 catches.