12/1/2022 - NFL Week #13 - Bills at Pats* - Post game thread

[WideNine]

  On 12/2/2022 at 4:12 AM, DapperCam said:

Team is learning to close out games and not do stupid crap to let the other team back in it. Kind of boring to watch sometimes.

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My ticker needed a boring win.

 

I thought the big one was coming when I was watching the game against MN.

 

 

 

  On 12/2/2022 at 8:41 PM, FrenchConnection said:

Those WEEI calls are funny, but to be fair that’s what WGR would sound like if the Bills lose to the Jets next week.

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Shush that business.

 

The fickle football gods are smiling on our team and helping FGs doink off the crossbars don't jinx it.

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Who can read lips?

 

 

[scuba guy]

  On 12/2/2022 at 8:32 PM, Chandler#81 said:

Baldy’s Breakdown on JCook’s run. #GutRipping

 

 

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I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video.

 

Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast

[YoloinOhio]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:06 AM, scuba guy said:

I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video.

 

Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast

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His initial burst is really impressive. He doesn’t hesitate

[The Wiz]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:06 AM, scuba guy said:

I did not realize that was a 28 uard run until watching the video.

 

Cook just moves so smooth for a rookie 😋 and it does not even look like he is going fast

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I said a while back. When he runs in space,  he doesn't look like he's running but more like he's gliding.

[Maine-iac]

Rewatching the game.  Quesenberry was even worse than I thought.  He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later.  I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:17 AM, The Wiz said:

I said a while back. When he runs in space,  he doesn't look like he's running but more like he's gliding.

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Yep immediately noticeable, I agree.

 

He's the type of back you need to give a bit of space, clear that initial hole, and he'll take off

 

(Hines is the exact same way, but more straight line speed, less moves)

Edited December 3, 2022 by Tom Donahoe, GM

[The Wiz]

I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse?

 

Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. 

[YoloinOhio]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:18 AM, Maine-iac said:

Rewatching the game.  Quesenberry was even worse than I thought.  He straight up fell down on one play without even touching a defender and then Uche ran right by him a play later.  I haven't gotten to the sack from Uche which I'm sure will again be someone running right by him.

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Well he’s a backup who was playing on an injured ankle 

[Chandler#81]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:41 AM, The Wiz said:

I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse?

 

Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. 

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He’s very good. I may be incorrect but I think he’s leading in sacks. He leads the Pats* for sure. 

[The Wiz]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:44 AM, Chandler#81 said:

He’s very good. I may be incorrect but I think he’s leading in sacks. He leads the Pats* for sure. 

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I've only watch maybe 2 or 3 pats games that weren't against the bills this year so that's good to know that the bills basically scheme to make him useless along with Allen just being Allen to make him look worse.

[Maine-iac]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:43 AM, YoloinOhio said:

Well he’s a backup who was playing on an injured ankle 

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I mean you're right but tell that to Allen who was hit multiple times from behind before he got strip sacked and thrown on his head.  

[Beck Water]

  On 12/2/2022 at 8:32 PM, Chandler#81 said:

Baldy’s Breakdown on JCook’s run. #GutRipping

 

 

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Nice.  A few more of Baldy's Breakdowns:

 

 

[Goin Breakdown]

  On 12/2/2022 at 8:46 PM, JDubya76 said:

Their accents are like nails on a chalkboard

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"I'm givin my tickets to my coworkas and goin home to fieet with my whyf"

[Beck Water]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:41 AM, The Wiz said:

I really need to know if Judon is actually a good player and Allen makes him look bad or he's just really not that good of a player and Allen makes him look worse?

 

Maybe one of the resident pats fans can let me know because all I've seen from him in the last 3 games is him chasing Allen's vapor trail. 

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Judon is a very good player.  He is currently leading the league in sacks with 13.  2nd in QB hits, 8 in TFL.  He's a terror.

 

The Bills have pretty much had a Plan for him ever since 2019 when he strip-sacked Josh Allen in Baltimore for a sack-fumble TD.  Leaving Sweeney to block him, leading to a holding call, was a plan I guess  - but it was a Bad Plan.

[Augie]

  On 12/3/2022 at 1:11 AM, YoloinOhio said:

His initial burst is really impressive. He doesn’t hesitate

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Very different from Singletary, who is patient then quick enough to dodge the first contact. I like both, but it’s an interesting blend. 

[Warcodered]

 

[Georgia Bill]

  On 12/2/2022 at 5:33 AM, FrenchConnection said:

Yet again, I'm happy Superman plays for our team.

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[Beck Water]

  On 12/2/2022 at 9:40 PM, Maine-iac said:

I'm going to put on my flame suit here and say Mac Jones doesn't deserve all the flack he's getting.  Poor bastard has Matt Patricia as an OC.  I'm not saying Mac Jones is championship caliber but he's standing up there begging for a more explosive offense and I'm not sure Patricia or Belichik are capable of coaching that.

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No flaming from here.   There are times when you change coaches or offensive coordinators and all of a sudden a guy who looked "Seriously?" becomes "Damn!  OK!"

 

Example would be Daniel Jones, who looked functional for a rookie under Pat Shurmer/Mike Shula.  Then he started looking pretty clueless under Joe Judge/Jason Garrett & Freddie Kitchens.

 

Lo and behold, Daboll/Mike Kafka and a healthy run game and Daniel Jones seems serviceable once again.  You'd like him to be collecting a few more passing yards per game, but everything else (TD/INT ratio, completion % etc) you can win with.

 

  On 12/2/2022 at 10:36 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

See Tua.... Flores wanted him gone!! 

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Agree, Tua would be another example of the difference a good OC and HC can make, but TBF adding Hill to Waddle didn't hurt.

 

I would put Mac Jones in the same category - I don't find him likeable or charismatic, but give him his propers.  He was able to be a perfectly functional QB under Josh McDaniel, in an offense based on making the right reads and getting the ball out in rhythm, then taking a few deep shots when they're there.  Completion %, 22 TD to 13 INTs, YPG - those were all good enough QB play to win with, supported by a good run game and a top D.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

Since some of us were "down" on Cook for faking out his own QB and not being QB friendly last week.

 

Here's Cook last night "doing the Right Thing".  YES!!!!