Khalil Shakir's pic on a milk carton

[Mr. WEO]

13 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

 

And the Bills made the playoffs in 2017 without Josh.  Your point?

 

the Bills are winning without him

[Scott7975]

55 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

No targets at all.  Hard to blame him unless he never got open which I highly doubt.

 

Well he had 35 snaps (64%) against Detroit.  Either he aint getting open or Josh doesnt want to throw him the ball.  Thats plenty of looks in a game to do something.

18 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

Maybe he just can’t play at this level yet. Like Cook. With some guys it just takes a little time. Some guys never get it. Who knows?

 

Could be but it seems to me that just about every player the Bills draft takes "a little time."  Last drafted player I can recall really making an immediate impact was Tre White.  Everyone else seems to take until their rookie contract is about to expire or is just an ok role player at best.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Scott7975

[Joe Ferguson]

The Bills wasted money and draft picks on defense. They didn't get an actual NFL receiver until year 3 when Diggs came here. Look at Allen’s receivers his rookie year and 2nd year and you can’t be honest that they were setting him up to succeed. The receivers he had were actual bums from the street. With the exception of Diggs, Allen has no help.

Defensive minded HC McDermott tells Allen “oh hey…um yeah just go out there and you and Dorsey do your thing…make it work or whatever…I got defensive game film to study”

 

[DCbillsfan]

15 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Well he had 35 snaps (64%) against Detroit.  Either he aint getting open or Josh doesnt want to throw him the ball.  Thats plenty of looks in a game to do something.

 

You can't do anything if you don't get targets or touches.  

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 minute ago, DCbillsfan said:

You can't do anything if you don't get targets or touches.  

And you won't get targets if your not getting open.

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

You can't do anything if you don't get targets or touches.  

 

As I said... either he isnt getting open or Josh doesnt want to throw him the ball.  There is nothing else it can be.

[Buffalo03]

Outside of Diggs, every WR on this team is a crap shoot. Doesn’t mean they're bad, I just don't think outside of Diggs that the offense is really designed around anyone else

[DCbillsfan]

9 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

And you won't get targets if your not getting open.

I find it hard to believe he's covered every play.

[LyndonvilleBill]

1 minute ago, DCbillsfan said:

I find it hard to believe he's covered every play.

I agree. I put it in one of my other posts that I wish I had the all 22 to look at to see. I am all for Shakir and rooting for him to be successful. But with a 47% catch rate and 0 targets in the last 2 games? I can see why this thread was started. 

[TH3]

23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

The Bills wasted money and draft picks on defense. They didn't get an actual NFL receiver until year 3 when Diggs came here. Look at Allen’s receivers his rookie year and 2nd year and you can’t be honest that they were setting him up to succeed. The receivers he had were actual bums from the street. With the exception of Diggs, Allen has no help.

Defensive minded HC McDermott tells Allen “oh hey…um yeah just go out there and you and Dorsey do your thing…make it work or whatever…I got defensive game film to study”

 

Wut?

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

I swear, the Bills actually have a guy named Khalil Shakir, a much touted rookie who has pulled a disappearing act.

 

Shakir has only had 2 targets in the last 4 games, and zero targets in the last two games when the Bills were only carrying 4 WRs.

 

What happened?  Can't get open?  Dissed the coaches?  Tried to hit on Josh's GF?

He made the mistake of playing good in the one game and that was it for him. kinda like Singletary or Cook who have a few good plays and the hook grabs them off the stage

[MJS]

Fans just fell victim to the classic training camp / preseason hype of a late round rookie.

[US Egg]

10 minutes ago, MJS said:

Fans just fell victim to the classic training camp / preseason hype of a late round rookie.

The torch and pitchfork mob do not approve of this message.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

Man first Dorsey, THEN McDermott, and now players like Shakir???!?!?

 

Did you SEE the stat line for McKenzie? 6 REC/96 YDS/1 TD and led the team in yards. Between the receivers, 17 receptions and Stefon led with 8.

 

Shakir is a victim of the success of the others... you can't stop throwing to dudes just to get Shakir the ball if they are producing. This thread is a joke...

The problem with this poast:  Mckenzie hasn’t had much success - prior to this week, he had 13 receptions in last 6 games-  

 

gabe has 1 good game in the last 5.

 

Knox’s best game is 7-70-0-  not much success.  
 

Considering our WRs, I’m shocked he hasn’t had more targets since the Steeler game.  He had 5 targets in that game and 6 combined targets since.  

22 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Wut?

Consider the source.  WPE

[Dan Darragh]

24 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

He made the mistake of playing good in the one game and that was it for him. kinda like Singletary or Cook who have a few good plays and the hook grabs them off the stage

Huh?

[Airseven]

Beane’s draft this year was brutal.

[Captain Hindsight]

2 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

I swear, the Bills actually have a guy named Khalil Shakir, a much touted rookie who has pulled a disappearing act.

 

Shakir has only had 2 targets in the last 4 games, and zero targets in the last two games when the Bills were only carrying 4 WRs.

 

What happened?  Can't get open?  Dissed the coaches?  Tried to hit on Josh's GF?

Much touted? He’s a 5th round pick on a team with Super Bowl aspirations. They brought in Crowder and then Hines because he’s not really ready to contribute 

[Beast]

What a great idea it was to wash our hands of Cole Beasley.

[blacklabel]

2 hours ago, Irv said:

Simple solution.  Cut him and sign Da’Rick.  

 

No. Brandon Reilly!

[Captain Hindsight]

4 minutes ago, Beast said:

What a great idea it was to wash our hands of Cole Beasley.

Yes how else would we be 8-3 without Cole Beasley?