Injuries NOT an excuse. Bills tied for 5th fewest man games lost to injury thru Week 11

[BigAl2526]

2 hours ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

It's not the numbers! It is who is injured

Yeah, that's very true.  The entire starting secondary was out at the same time for a while.  Now Von freaking Miller is out.  Hopefully Rousseau and Epenesa will be back next week, Otherwise the line play is going to be struggling.  Mac Jones isn't a threat to have an explosive day, but Rhamondre Stevenson will be Derrick Henry like if Buffalo doesn't have most of their rotational pieces together on the D-line.

Edited November 25, 2022 by BigAl2526

[Awwufelloff]

Man game injuries mean next to nothing. The name and impact of the players lost means the most. We've had key injuries to how many of our top 10 players?  

[WhoTom]

2 hours ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

It's not the numbers! It is who is injured

 

Exactly, and that's shown in this pic:

 

The larger the bubble, the higher the cumulative quality of players lost to injury. The raw number of man-games puts us in the bottom five, but the cumulative quality of lost players has us in the top ten, and we're still sitting at 8-3. Other than Baltimore, most teams with a bubble that large are sitting at 4-5 wins. Notice the small bubbles for the teams we've lost to and the teams with better, or equivalent, records. And neither stat factors in strength-of-schedule.

 

Stats without analysis aren't all that meaningful.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by WhoTom

[78thealltimegreat]

If you lose your backup guard and backup safety that’s one thing. When your talking injuries to frontline cornerstone players and your starting QB who people where literally talking Tommy John surgery with two weeks ago is literally having to play and be Superman cause he’s got no secondary receivers that’s another. 

[MphsBillsfan]

All the injuries on secondary and oline and still only lost 3 games by 8 points. 

The backups are stepping up, don't get me wrong it's not pretty at times. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Quality over quantity.

 

[FilthyBeast]

I don't discount the sheer number of key injuries this team has suffered this year but when you look around the league so has just about everyone else including all the major division/SB favorite teams.

 

The Chiefs if anything have been pretty lucky on the injury front until losing a few of their WR's recently but they will all likely be back this week or shortly after.

 

Bottom line it's truly next man up and this is where real depth is tested.

[MarlinTheMagician]

FIrst, the 8-3 Bills owe no excuses to anyone with their fine record.  Second, of course there are excuses - missing much of your secondary, missing your best pass rushers and having your MVP QB dinged affects everything.  Who cares about "man games lost" - lies, damn lies and statistics.  Any fan can see we are very affected by injury and have been for much of the season.    

[DieHardBillsFan]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Bills tied for 5th fewest man games lost to injury with only 83.

 

 

 

The difference? Many of them have been to key players unlike the last several years.

 

 

So the excuses the Bills are somehow more injured than every other team needs to stop. They are STILL one of the least injured teams in the NFL even with what seems like a crazy rash of injuries...we just don't see all the players out for other teams because we don't follow them very closely.

 

Injuries to non key players/starters would help as well.

Guarantee this doesn't count Tre or Hyde because of IR.

[Marvin]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Bills tied for 5th fewest man games lost to injury with only 83.

 

 

 

The difference? Many of them have been to key players unlike the last several years.

 

 

So the excuses the Bills are somehow more injured than every other team needs to stop. They are STILL one of the least injured teams in the NFL even with what seems like a crazy rash of injuries...we just don't see all the players out for other teams because we don't follow them very closely.

 

Injuries to non key players/starters would help as well.

Sorry.  Quality matters more than quantity.

[GoBills808]

How do they calculate man game lost

[Ponch]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

For not completing the mission this year.

Little premature aren’t we? 

[KHAN]

Does Tre' count? There's 10.75 more games to add to that.

[Mc1320]

Total snaps lost by starters would be a more telling stat here for us.

[CorkScrewHill]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

It's missing key Data on injuries. Like the fish game heat illness. This chart or post missing key points.

some key points missing from this

 

1) Who decided the relative quality of the player missed. 
2) Do they count people on IR? 

I look at the injury reports every week and it has “seemed” that we have in general been missing more starters than our opponents.

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, WhoTom said:

 

Exactly, and that's shown in this pic:

 

The larger the bubble, the higher the cumulative quality of players lost to injury. The raw number of man-games puts us in the bottom five, but the cumulative quality of lost players has us in the top ten, and we're still sitting at 8-3. Other than Baltimore, most teams with a bubble that large are sitting at 4-5 wins. Notice the small bubbles for the teams we've lost to and the teams with better, or equivalent, records. And neither stat factors in strength-of-schedule.

 

Stats without analysis aren't all that meaningful.

 

 

 

 

 

I cant even believe this thread is still going.  So many nails in the coffin in it like this one.  

[1ManRaid]

There is a difference between games missed due to injury, and playing at less than 100% by playing with the injuries.  There's a world of gray you miss in your black and white world.  It's not an excuse, it's a reason.

[pigpen65]

I think a lot of guys are playing injured though. Allen hasn't missed any games but he's injured.

[Augie]

5 hours ago, SUNTANBILLS FAN said:

It's not the numbers! It is who is injured

 

Exactly, and this is worth repeating. Simply “counting games” without any context is misleading. It’s not just the “how many”, who they are is critical and it has hurt our defense dramatically. Would you take 6 injured ST players, or one guy named Josh. The “who” is a big deal. 

 

I get it, the numbers are surprising….until you look beneath the surface. 

[Beast]

Terrible thread.