StHustle Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Joe Marino posts a ton of content but his postgame pod for the Bills Lions Thanksgiving game deserves it’s own thread. So many members of the Mafia are upset, confused, and discouraged right now. The way he breaks down exactly what’s going on is masterful and he hits the nail on the head on point after point. One of his firsts points is simply the fact that Josh has had only a few practices for these last 3 games starting with just one limited practice before the Vikings game. How the lack of practice sessions have stunted the ability to get Hines installed in the offense properly. How, despite how none of us are in love with the way the Bills offense or Josh is playing right now, we still rank #2 in the league in average points and yards per game over these last 3 ugly games. He touches on so much more including a lot dealing with the defense and most key players individually. I love his perspective and feel most Bills fans would appreciate this content. 18 2 4 15 Quote
GolfandBills Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice 13 22 9 4 7 1 7 Quote
YoloinOhio Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Thanks I’ll listen in the am for my workout. One of the best bills podcasts for sure. 5 5 Quote
boyst Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice This is 100% true even if those excuses are reasonable. We simply need to do better and now that December is going to be upon there is absolutely and positively no room for bull####. One reason I have hope after today falls in line with some of what is eluded to here. Today's game Josh went to McKenzie. He knows McKenzie and played with him longer than any other WR on the team. He had no other choice today than to force it to him and it showed several times. Why he didn't go to Diggs early, I don't know. Why he didn't go to Davis was clear. Davis was blanketed most every route by defenders (I suspect he's been figured out). McKenzie was creating just enough space today to make things work and Josh knew he could trust himself to throw the routes he knows McKenzie is running. 3 Quote
StHustle Posted November 25, 2022 Author Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice There is a difference between excuses and legitimate reasons for things. Nobody is saying what other NFL teams care about. It’s rational explanations for why we look how we do and why most gloom and doom posters are overreacting. 12 2 3 2 Quote
gobills404 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice An explanation and an excuse are 2 different things 11 1 3 Quote
StHustle Posted November 25, 2022 Author Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, boyst said: This is 100% true even if those excuses are reasonable. We simply need to do better and now that December is going to be upon there is absolutely and positively no room for bull####. One reason I have hope after today falls in line with some of what is eluded to here. Today's game Josh went to McKenzie. He knows McKenzie and played with him longer than any other WR on the team. He had no other choice today than to force it to him and it showed several times. Why he didn't go to Diggs early, I don't know. Why he didn't go to Davis was clear. Davis was blanketed most every route by defenders (I suspect he's been figured out). McKenzie was creating just enough space today to make things work and Josh knew he could trust himself to throw the routes he knows McKenzie is running. You discussing the offense shows you should watch the pod. We’ve had the #2 productive offense over the last 3 games so far. The defense is the issue and you simply can’t expect the Bills to be dominant with all that he makes clear. We are a resilient bunch who has dominated games or been in them til the last drive. All while dealing with major things to overcome. So many Bills fans are behaving like spoiled Pats fans who feel they should dominate every week despite the reality of the circumstances. 11 4 5 Quote
wvbillsfan Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 You can not overstate the lack of practice time this team and specifically Allen has had. We are still putting up points. I’m not worried about the offense. Our defense needs to get right and close out some games. I’m confident they will. Seems like they hit a three or four game stretch every year and then figure it out. I feel pretty good about where we are, providing Miller can come back 2 Quote
Airseven Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, gobills404 said: An explanation and an excuse are 2 different things True, because an explanation accepts a little bit of responsibility. But it’s not an explanation either. Nothing explains the Vikings gaffe, for example. It’s all just meaningless context. 2 4 1 1 1 Quote
Bookie Man Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Sounds like Seth Rogan haha. Marino is quite possibly my favorite Bills listen. Edited November 25, 2022 by ßookie_tech Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 So in order for Hines to run the ball Josh has to practice? I see things different such as getting away from the running game. Lack of or no ability to have play action. How about a trick play? Um, run Cook on something other than a toss. Double move, pump fake? Not wait until 4th Qtr to get Knox in the game…. I see a lack of creativity. I see WRs consistently running 15 yds down the field, even on 3rd and short. Get Josh under center a few more times a game just to help set up play action and have a different look other than shotgun. They call the QB sweep almost once a game, how about QB sweep action then stop and throw over the top, teams come flying up when they see that… Practice days, injuries etc I get it… sure it makes thing’s tougher. But I just don’t see this offense being to difficult for teams the game plan against. Belichick will be tough next week. Definitely a game we can lose. 3 1 1 Quote
wagon127 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice They won two games during all this. Why do the cares of 31 other teams matter? 1 Quote
Since1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 Practice time is important to install and operationalize opponent specifics strategy and tactics. People confuse what a week practice is. It’s not wind sprints, it’s installing. I think it explains a slow start, because they are installing “live” 5 1 Quote
Franco_92 Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice Most of them are worse than 8-3 4 1 Quote
AlfaBill Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice In the end you’re correct. And the Bills won 2 straight. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: In the end it’s all excuses. 31 other NFL teams don’t care about our injuries or lack of practice And 25 of those teams would sign up right now to score 30,31 and 28 points while averaging over 400 yards of offense the past 3 games when we have played "like crap" on offense too. I kinda remember the Bills scoring 6 and 15 points in 2 games last year... The sky isn't falling. They for sure can correct some things. They will be fine. At the end of the day, just win the games. Ugly wins are better than pretty losses any day of the week. And twice on Sundays Edited November 25, 2022 by Big Turk 10 1 Quote
AlfaBill Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Airseven said: True, because an explanation accepts a little bit of responsibility. But it’s not an explanation either. Nothing explains the Vikings gaffe, for example. It’s all just meaningless context. True. You should go over to the Fins board. They’re currently accepting band wagoners 2 1 4 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said: So in order for Hines to run the ball Josh has to practice? I see things different such as getting away from the running game. Lack of or no ability to have play action. How about a trick play? Um, run Cook on something other than a toss. Double move, pump fake? Not wait until 4th Qtr to get Knox in the game…. I see a lack of creativity. I see WRs consistently running 15 yds down the field, even on 3rd and short. Get Josh under center a few more times a game just to help set up play action and have a different look other than shotgun. They call the QB sweep almost once a game, how about QB sweep action then stop and throw over the top, teams come flying up when they see that… Practice days, injuries etc I get it… sure it makes thing’s tougher. But I just don’t see this offense being to difficult for teams the game plan against. Belichick will be tough next week. Definitely a game we can lose. OK. I guess when they "struggle" and still average 29 points and 400+ yards it's hard for me to want to make wholesale changes. Small things to correct can lead to big result differences. 2 1 Quote
In Summary Posted November 25, 2022 Posted November 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, StHustle said: I love his perspective and feel most Bills fans would appreciate this content. It's my new daily listen. No bombast. More about analysis than personal attacks. Does good crossover segments. 2 Quote
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