Professor Worthington Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 I will waffle here and say it’s a combination of all 3, just not sure what is contributing the most. I don’t think the elbow has anything to do with it. He’s not barreling down the field trucking defenders with a sore anything. Still no other QB I would rather have. Clearly from a fan’s perspective my frustration comes from the dominating promise of the first 7 games to the current scratching and clawing for a W vs inferior teams. What do you all think is the most important thing to get right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Professor Worthington said: I will waffle here and say it’s a combination of all 3, just not sure what is contributing the most. I don’t think the elbow has anything to do with it. He’s not barreling down the field trucking defenders with a sore anything. Still no other QB I would rather have. Clearly from a fan’s perspective my frustration comes from the dominating promise of the first 7 games to the current scratching and clawing for a W vs inferior teams. What do you all think is the most important thing to get right? sort of the yips. He is trying to not throw interceptions, so not trusting himself. The best throw Of the game was his last one, when he just saw it and slung it. He needs to trust himself again. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 I think his elbow is bothering him more than he is letting on...basically like he is trying to conserve it to only use his arm when he needs to and is trying to finesse the other throws. 5 1 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 It’s not the OC. I think it’s a little mental. Made some bad decisions and now he’s playing a little safe. I don’t think his WRs after Diggs are doing much for him. McKenzie a good game but all he can do is run crossers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 Some of the thorws to the outside that he muscling are a clear indication of the issue with the UCL that is why it was there on the DAvis thrid down conversion where it was low and then three plays later to Diggs that went incomplete... I know people afre trying to place blame and say ahhh haaa it is this but there is another team out there trying to stop them that was on a three game winning streak and just about beat Miami. How about we settle down and enjoy the ride and be glad this team is 8-3 I know i am i hav never coached or played at this level so i'm not going to arm chair diagnos but boy the message board has a lot of ex NFL players coaches and GM's that certainly know the answers right.. But when I hear from players like Ostroski, Thomas, Fina and others they understand and certainly do not have some of these takes. Some could learn a lot from observing and listening to some of these people. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Professor Worthington said: I will waffle here and say it’s a combination of all 3, just not sure what is contributing the most. I don’t think the elbow has anything to do with it. He’s not barreling down the field trucking defenders with a sore anything. Still no other QB I would rather have. Clearly from a fan’s perspective my frustration comes from the dominating promise of the first 7 games to the current scratching and clawing for a W vs inferior teams. What do you all think is the most important thing to get right? I don’t suppose you wanna throw it is obvious elbow injury do you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t suppose you wanna throw it is obvious elbow injury do you? He’s wearing a brace on his throwing arm and people are asking what could possibly be the issue lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 1. Poor OL 2. Mediocre OC 3. Bigger injury than being told 4. Yips/ trying to be whole offense 5. Gabe & Dawson have disappeared. These facts are both obvious and glaring.... Edited November 25, 2022 by LABILLBACKER 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I think his elbow is bothering him more than he is letting on...basically like he is trying to conserve it to only use his arm when he needs to and is trying to finesse the other throws. 110% He’s running a conserve mode but he has the arm available for a few 10 throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Dawson Knox has to block because the offensive line is garbage. Allen saves them so many sacks. They are awful. Dawkins is above average and so is Morse every other lineman is subpar and the backups are horrendous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Worthington Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: 1. Poor OL 2. Mediocre OC 3. Bigger injury than being told 4. Yips/ trying to be whole offense 5. Gabe & Dawson have disappeared. Good answer. I just can’t wrap my head around the elbow being the thing. How do you throw a 70 yd pass at end of Jets game and the pass to Diggs today and say “it’s the elbow.” Any orthopedic surgeons or sports medicine specialists, please weigh in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I don’t suppose you wanna throw it is obvious elbow injury do you? Reminds me of when he had that left shoulder sprain and he looked off for like 3 or 4 games until that came off and then he went back to lighting teams up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 80% yips, 10% Dorsey, 10% OL. The ints have gotten in his head bad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Man this thread haters gonna hate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Professor Worthington said: Good answer. I just can’t wrap my head around the elbow being the thing. How do you throw a 70 yd pass at end of Jets game and the pass to Diggs today and say “it’s the elbow.” Any orthopedic surgeons or sports medicine specialists, please weigh in! It's like he knows he can do it but it likely doesn't feel great when he does so he is only using it when absolutely necessary. He is making a lot of finesse type throws we normally don't see him make...at least not to that degree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) All of the above. I think it starts with Dorsey and his inability to get this offense into a rhythm early. Our scripted plays don’t do that and there aren’t enough easy completions early on. Our OL is not good and it starts inside. Saffold and Bates are terrible. Brown also gets beat too often. Allen and Diggs are what makes the offense go week after week. Edited November 25, 2022 by Bangarang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Professor Worthington said: Good answer. I just can’t wrap my head around the elbow being the thing. How do you throw a 70 yd pass at end of Jets game and the pass to Diggs today and say “it’s the elbow.” Any orthopedic surgeons or sports medicine specialists, please weigh in! Because he's still physically able to make those things happen but st the cost of major pain in the moment and the risk of ruining his throwing arm, as terrible as it is to say out loud, Josh shouldn't be playing he should have sat for 2 weeks to rest his arm, but doing that kills our season.....if we hadn't had so many injuries maybe we could have afforded him to sit a couple games but not with the shell of a team we have out there rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulsabillsfanz Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Man this thread haters gonna hate. Exactly. Did we miss something? Wasn’t that Josh Allen leading us 90 yards down the field for the go ahead TD with 2:40 left. Wasn’t that Josh Allen throwing an incredible 36 yard pass to Diggs to lead us to the game winning FG in less than 20 seconds? Yes, JA has struggled at times, but he’s still a great QB & he had no yips when the game was on the line today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 His elbow isn't good until the 4th quarter. I think that's his issue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Hurt Poor OL Defenses don’t care about our RBs in pass D. They don’t care about our RBs at all. OC is inexperienced and still figuring things out We might be holding back trying to win “vanilla” then go from there Why is Nyiem Hines here? We have no slot WR that position took 100 plus targets from Josh a season. Despite these Josh is on pace for 5000 yards passing and most importantly he continues to win games. Edited November 25, 2022 by Big Blitz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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