Dane Jackson was toast 😬

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Dane has been really struggling the last few weeks, that’s for sure. Good news is he’s a fantastic depth guy, not the long term answer at CB. White and Elam are back, we should be good moving forward. 

[vincec]

  On 11/24/2022 at 9:45 PM, newcam2012 said:

He's forced to play because of injuries. He isn't a starter caliber CB. 

He's forced to play because of injuries. He isn't a starter caliber CB. 

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Who is the other starter opposite White? The way they’re rotating Benford and Elam I’d say it’s going to be Jackson.

  On 11/25/2022 at 12:13 AM, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I was all about Dane last year and most of this year…the last 2 weeks have been embarrassing. Need Elam and White on the field 

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Elam is #3 right now, even before White returns. Benford is getting more reps than him and Jackson never comes off the field.

[newcam2012]

  On 11/25/2022 at 3:56 PM, vincec said:

Who is the other starter opposite White? The way they’re rotating Benford and Elam I’d say it’s going to be Jackson.

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That's a real problem because all three can and will be exposed by quality teams in the playoffs. Benford and Elam are learning on the job. Both I think will be good to very good corners under McD. However, right now and likely for the playoffs they are not a strength of the team. Jackson is a whole different story. The guy is a fantastic nickel guy and situational back. He makes big plays and knows the system well. However, he is not a starter and he's clearly showing us that. I do believe he can be an asset in the playoffs when used effectively. 

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[clayboy54]

  On 11/25/2022 at 4:02 PM, newcam2012 said:

That's a real problem because all three can and will be exposed by quality teams in the playoffs. Benford and Elam are learning on the job. Both I think will be good to very good corners under McD. However, right now and likely for the playoffs they are not a strength of the team. Jackson is a whole different story. The guy is a fantastic nickel guy and situational back. He makes big plays and knows the system well. However, he is not a starter and he's clearly showing us that. I do believe he can be an asset in the playoffs when used effectively. 

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#2 guys do not get exposed typically because they are not going against #1 receivers. A couple teams have 1a and 1b receivers like Miami and Minnesota. Most don’t. KC doesn’t unless you consider Kelce a wr.

 

Will Dane ever be Sauce Gardner? Nope… not a chance. When you add in the experience he is getting subbing for Tre, he might just be one of the better #2 guys once the pressure is off, (assuming Tre gets back to 100%). Add in Elam & Benford next season and beyond, and you have the makings of a top corner corps.

[newcam2012]

  On 11/25/2022 at 4:15 PM, clayboy54 said:

#2 guys do not get exposed typically because they are not going against #1 receivers. A couple teams have 1a and 1b receivers like Miami and Minnesota. Most don’t. KC doesn’t unless you consider Kelce a wr.

 

Will Dane ever be Sauce Gardner? Nope… not a chance. When you add in the experience he is getting subbing for Tre, he might just be one of the better #2 guys once the pressure is off, (assuming Tre gets back to 100%). Add in Elam & Benford next season and beyond, and you have the makings of a top corner corps.

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I agree but this year is a different story. Benford and Elam are more of a liability this season vs a strength due to inexperience and learning the professional game. Dane is getting tourched as a starter. Very good situational back who makes big plays. He's limited due to his physical limitations. 

[wakingfane]

What I have seen is... Teams are not often throwing the type of passes our cornerbacks are good at defending (simple square ins and outs, short slants, deep square ins, come backers). They are challenging downfield or on double moves that get the defenders to turn their back to the quarterback or sideline, running towards holes in the coverage. And the line hasn't been getting as much quick pressure to beat these longer developing plays.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Can't let this fall down the page too far...🤔🤨

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Thought #30 played a sound game tonight.

 

Will be curious to see how the Bills stifled the Pats passing attack on the back end in the 2nd half.

[Ramza86]

The last 3 or 4 weeks any ball that went near the WR was caught against him. 

 

Lol. Man has been getting COOKED. 

[Aaronthebaron]

Didn’t it look like he tried to tackle the Pats receiver toward the end of the game, not knowing the ball was overthrown? 

[NewEra]

  On 12/2/2022 at 6:09 PM, Ramza86 said:

The last 3 or 4 weeks any ball that went near the WR was caught against him. 

 

Lol. Man has been getting COOKED. 

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Not true.  He had a nice PBU vs the browns and one vs the Lions.  
 

i also don’t think good coverage and not turning around is getting COOKED.  Dude just needs to turn his head.

 

 

 

 

[Ramza86]

  On 12/2/2022 at 6:59 PM, NewEra said:

Not true.  He had a nice PBU vs the browns and one vs the Lions.  
 

i also don’t think good coverage and not turning around is getting COOKED.  Dude just needs to turn his head.

 

 

 

 

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Im going to respectfully disagree. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

  On 12/2/2022 at 4:46 AM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Thought #30 played a sound game tonight.

 

Will be curious to see how the Bills stifled the Pats passing attack on the back end in the 2nd half.

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I will be curious to know the snap counts. I am not sure he was out there as much as we think. 

[NewEra]

  On 12/2/2022 at 10:40 PM, Ramza86 said:

 

Im going to respectfully disagree. 

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He actually did have 2 nice PBUs.  Not something you can really disagree with…. there’s actually video evidence of it.  But go for it. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

  On 12/2/2022 at 10:44 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I will be curious to know the snap counts. I am not sure he was out there as much as we think. 

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52% of snaps for Dane

 

Rhodes - 87%
White - 61%

[jlgarsh]

I thought Rhodes looked really good paired with Tre. JMO though

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 12/2/2022 at 10:57 PM, EmotionallyUnstable said:

52% of snaps for Dane

 

Rhodes - 87%
White - 61%

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He was purely a backup. Came in for Tre when he had the stinger and then again once the Bills and the game in control.

 

At one moment he nearly had a tipped INT, I was hoping he’d get it. He needs one.

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

He is actually often in good position. The problem is that he doesn't have the athleticism, instincts, or ball skills to fight for the ball.

 

That's not glaring as a #2 or 3,but against elite talent? It's a disaster 

[Mango]

  On 12/2/2022 at 11:00 PM, jlgarsh said:

I thought Rhodes looked really good paired with Tre. JMO though

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Rhodes got smoked on that long TD catch. 
 

Dude looked like he had cement boots on. Poor old man. 

  On 12/2/2022 at 11:06 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

He was purely a backup. Came in for Tre when he had the stinger and then again once the Bills and the game in control.

 

At one moment he nearly had a tipped INT, I was hoping he’d get it. He needs one.

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I think Dane will still be a quality zone corner in this league. Hoping this is just a blip the last few weeks that drives his value down for us to re-sign. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 12/2/2022 at 11:49 PM, Mango said:

Rhodes got smoked on that long TD catch. 
 

Dude looked like he had cement boots on. Poor old man. 

I think Dane will still be a quality zone corner in this league. Hoping this is just a blip the last few weeks that drives his value down for us to re-sign. 

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Dane will continue to play in the league, definitely.