Where do you put Allen and Diggs in franchise history?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

I believe Allen is best QB Bills have ever had. I also think Diggs is now a top 5 Bill.

Here is my top 10. After Reed at 7 there are probably 10 guys that I would not argue could be the remaining 3 of the top 10.

 

1. Bruce Smith

2. Josh Allen

3. OJ Simpson 

4. Thurman Thomas

5. Stefon Diggs

6. Jim Kelly

7. Andre Reed

8. Jack Kemp

9. Cookie Gilchrist 

10. Joe DeLamielleure

 

[BillsFanForever19]

I don't know how I'd rank them individually on a Top 10 list of all time Bills - but I'll say without hesitation Allen to Diggs is the best QB/WR combination this team has ever had and it might not be close.

[JY422]

Kelly is too low on your list but I agree with everyone else. Although it pains me to agree with the OJ pick but I know we have to separate the man from the player. 
might have Kelly at 4 behind Bruce, JA17 and Thurm. 
 

*disclaimer - JA could lose his place on the list with a Cam Newton-like fall in play or a Andrew Luck-like early retirement. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by JY422

[Trock]

26 minutes ago, JY422 said:

Kelly is too low on your list but I agree with everyone else. Although it pains me to agree with the OJ pick but I know we have to separate the man from the player. 
mid have Kelly at 4 behind Bruce, JA17 and Thurm. 
 

*disclaimer - JA could lose his place on the list with a Cam Newton-like fall in play or a Andrew Luck-like early retirement. 

Maybe swap oj with Jim. 

[Rico]

46 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I believe Allen is best QB Bills have ever had. I also think Diggs is now a top 5 Bill.

Here is my top 10. After Reed at 7 there are probably 10 guys that I would not argue could be the remaining 3 of the top 10.

 

1. Bruce Smith

2. Josh Allen

3. OJ Simpson 

4. Thurman Thomas

5. Stefon Diggs

6. Jim Kelly

7. Andre Reed

8. Jack Kemp

9. Cookie Gilchrist 

10. Joe DeLamielleure

 

1-9 are debatable, but Joe D would be far below my top 10.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

9 minutes ago, Rico said:

1-9 are debatable, but Joe D would be far below my top 10.

Not to derail my own thread, but curious why? He is in HOF. Yet McKenzie gets more love in Buffalo. He was an All-Pro 8 times

[Rico]

Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Not to derail my own thread, but curious why? He is in HOF. Yet McKenzie gets more love in Buffalo. He was an All-Pro 8 times

He may be in HOF, but yes, I put Reggie and most definitely Billy Shaw above him. Solid meat-and-potatoes player, but nothing too special, not to my teenage eyes anyway. Light years better than Ruben Brown though.

[JY422]

Others who deserve consideration:

moulds

dubenion

shaw

Talley

Bennett

tasker

Hull

K Williams

 

 

 

[Neo]

7 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Not to derail my own thread, but curious why? He is in HOF. Yet McKenzie gets more love in Buffalo. He was an All-Pro 8 times

Kent Hull …  and I loved the Electric Company.

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Trock said:

Maybe swap oj with Jim. 

No, Jim was good but not great. As you put OJ on any team and he makes almost all of them better. Jim might make 50-60% better.

[machine gun kelly]

3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I believe Allen is best QB Bills have ever had. I also think Diggs is now a top 5 Bill.

Here is my top 10. After Reed at 7 there are probably 10 guys that I would not argue could be the remaining 3 of the top 10.

 

1. Bruce Smith

2. Josh Allen

3. OJ Simpson 

4. Thurman Thomas

5. Stefon Diggs

6. Jim Kelly

7. Andre Reed

8. Jack Kemp

9. Cookie Gilchrist 

10. Joe DeLamielleure

 

Joe D is a bit elder my time, so I might transpose him with one of our awesome linemen in the 80-90’s.  Ritcher , Wilford, House, or Hull.  Those guys punched so many nice holes for the Thurmonator.

[Nextmanup]

In no way is Josh ahead of OJ on the list.

 

Not yet, at least.

 

He has the ability to be 1 or 2 however.

 

Equally, no way is Diggs ahead of Jim Kelly.

 

Any of the current Bills have a long way to go before they get on the list.

 

Unless I have no idea of what you are trying to rank.