Von Miller knee injury (update - ACL intact, awaiting diagnosis on lateral meniscus)

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

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[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

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[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

You're a rational, level headed poster. Even when you disagree, you have reasons that are well thought out as to why. You are not one of the myriad of harpies to whom my post references. 

 

But I will take issue with something here. Yes, not only is being a Bills fan an emotional commitment, I contend that we actually have the ability to effect the game (to some degree). I have zero mathematical evidence to present. This is a purely instinctual and emotional belief. But I very much believe in home field advantage and the ability of the crowd to lift the team. And I take issue with the weak spirited contingent of Bills fans who do in fact project their fears about the worst possible outcome into the future as soon as the going gets tough... These are the contingent of people who were among the group of idiots who showed up at the airport to welcome the team back from the AFCG loss at KC and chanted "0-4! 0-4!" at the team at 4am... I digress...

 

I see your point, and certainly why one would spend literally hundreds if not thousands of dollars to attend one's teams game but not cheer for them full-throatedly, I have no idea. 

 

Even less idea why someone would show up at 4 am to dunk on the team.  That's definite "get a life - rent one if you can't buy!" territory.

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

Show your work.

[What a Tuel]

4 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

I've already said that I don't think we can productively discuss this.  It's as though we speak different languages.  "It's defeatist pessimism" is an example. 

 

I'm not making it personal or emotional, no idea where that is coming from, I am making it about the statistics. We are 2 games ahead of our competition for wild card. If it was reversed you'd be arguing we are all but eliminated. I know many people were arguing that way after the Bucs/Pats loss last year after losing the AFC East lead for a bit.

 

We lose Von Miller for a few weeks hopefully, but we get Tre White back. Things change, crap happens, and its cool to discuss but the constant building up of opposing teams while discounting ours and our accomplishments gets old and yes is defeatist pessimism.