RobbRiddick Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) They need to stop with the lil dirty stuff. It's demeaning and encourages mockery of the height challenged variety. You know, like dwarfs and Kylers Edited November 22, 2022 by RobbRiddick 2 1 Quote
Joe Ferguson Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, Beast said: He’s not catching passes. He’s not returning kicks. What good is he? Depth? Holding a clipboard. But he may screw that up too. Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Joe Ferguson said: McKenzie should be cut if Bills make the playoffs. If he's in the post season, Bills will get eliminated. He's the reason for all 3 Bills losses this year. Jesus, completely forgot about the snap that McKittrick fumbled on the goal line against the Viqueens. I get it, you hate him, but you don't need to make stuff up. Edited November 23, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Posted November 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: McKenzie should be cut if Bills make the playoffs. If he's in the post season, Bills will get eliminated. He's the reason for all 3 Bills losses this year. What were his mistakes in the Jets and Vikings games that lost us the game? 2 Quote
K D Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Shakir better. McKenzie good for gadget type plays. I like the motion plays with him every now and then. Maybe he gets a hand off on a sweep, maybe he's open on a swing pass. Shakir for normal downs please Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 McKenzie's worst game in terms of mistakes was Kansas City. Not holding on out of the end zone, the botched Allen lateral, and the tripping over himself in the end zone and dropping a TD. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Shakir has had 151 snaps now and has also been invisible in most of them. So invisible I was shocked to see he’s had that many snaps. 1 1 1 Quote
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Scott7975 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: Fans seeing the result of chasing Beasley out of town now think the solution is chasing another player out of town. Beasley chased himself out of town and he lost it anyways. Enough of the bs. No one chased him out of town. 1 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Shakir has had 151 snaps now and has also been invisible in most of them. So invisible I was shocked to see he’s had that many snaps. I noticed him some in Detroit, but I feel like he was on the outside and definitely was not a primary read. Quote
Scott7975 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I noticed him some in Detroit, but I feel like he was on the outside and definitely was not a primary read. Yeah not sure. He had 16 snaps I think. 25% which is up from his 22% average but I didn’t notice him at all. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 I think the correct question is what is the role of a Slot Receiver in Dorsey's Offense. I'm not sure it has much to do with McKenzie. Daboll used Beasley as a guy who would go out five yards right off the snap and turn around. I think McKenzie can at least do that! So can Shakir. In Dorsey's Offense, that role has been replaced by a late leaking Singletary who presents himself to the QB as a check down five yards deep over the middle. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Bease was let go, because he was not effective, in his last season,as a Buffalo Bill. "Political leanings"? Just stop the nonsense, already.. you do realize he asked for his release? Beane wanted to keep him. He wanted out of NYS 1 Quote
NewEra Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said: Fans seeing the result of chasing Beasley out of town now think the solution is chasing another player out of town. Yeah, Beasley’s so good that he’s retired…. 🙄 we miss Beasley…no doubt. The 2019-2020 version. He’s not that anymore 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: you do realize he asked for his release? Beane wanted to keep him. He wanted out of NYS We dont know that. 1 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 So to summarize my stance on the main question at hand: The Bills need to get a rotation going with 4-players - McKenzie, Shakir, Cook, Hines. It should not be that hard to find way to dump-off, screen, bubble-screen, flare, direct snap to these players. 7-regular season games left... 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I would say the Bills have 4 guys that are similar: Hines, Cook, McKenzie and Shakir (most different of the 4). But I'd start getting a real rotation going, using all 4 in motion and have them slice and dice underneath. Those guys should be in constant presnap motion, lining up all over the formation. You're going to need that against W.Gay and N.Bolton of the Chiefs. The Bills have 7-games left. Get this started now. Position-less. Run those linebackers and nickel backs ragged moving them around the formation, force them into zone adjustments that you can pick apart. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, Beasley’s so good that he’s retired…. 🙄 we miss Beasley…no doubt. The 2019-2020 version. He’s not that anymore Beasley doesn't fix our recent red zone problems. We act like we need him on 3rd downs. We are converting at a higher rate in 2022 vs. 2021 - 50% vs 46.4%. We are worse in the red zone at 51.3% vs 62.3%, but having beasley doesn't impact that as he had 0 RZ TDs in 2021. 2 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Position-less. Run those linebackers and nickel backs ragged moving them around the formation, force them into zone adjustments that you can pick apart. Absolutely. Instead of just focusing on what McKenzie can't do in a full-time role, take control of it, and start doing what he does well, and mix in 3 other players. It just should not take an entire offensive shift, or ruin a "game flow" or "balance" to get these guys a few touches. McKenzie has been disappointing this year, but in the past he has shown the NFL level of athleticism to be an effective player on the field. Shakir has shown that he can get open against NFL corners. Cook looks like he belongs now, and Hines has long proven that. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: Absolutely. Instead of just focusing on what McKenzie can't do in a full-time role, take control of it, and start doing what he does well, and mix in 3 other players. It just should not take an entire offensive shift, or ruin a "game flow" or "balance" to get these guys a few touches. McKenzie has been disappointing this year, but in the past he has shown the NFL level of athleticism to be an effective player on the field. Shakir has shown that he can get open against NFL corners. Cook looks like he belongs now, and Hines has long proven that. Nice thing about the gimmicky stuff too is that instead of allen in the pocket scanning the field, its read a single guy. Hand off or pass. Pitch or hand off. Quote
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