Warriorspikes51 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) Thoughts on how to use him going forward? At this point, it's time to start giving more opportunities to Shakir, Hines and Cook I do think Isaiah is very effective when put in motion He quietly has 4 TD's I could see us making him inactive at Detroit and then catching the Patriots off guard a bit by giving him a lot of touches next week (which gave the Pats nightmares in the game there last season) Edited November 22, 2022 by Warriorspikes51 2 1 1 Quote
fan_in_tx Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 I would add that we are not getting the production from McKenzie, that we got from our former slot receiver who I shall not name due to the political leanings of this board. Either it is the play calling or simply McKenzie can't get open in the slot not sure which is the cause. 13 2 4 2 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Thoughts on how to use him going forward? At this point, it's time to start giving more opportunities to Shakir, Hines and Cook I do think Isaiah is very effective when put in motion I could see us making him inactive at Detroit and then catching the Patriots off guard a bit by giving him a lot of touches next week (which gave the Pats nightmares in the game there last season) We're so strapped for WRs at the moment with Kumerow/Crowder/Stevenson all on IR. I can't imagine making him inactive, but I could see decreasing the snap count and being more selective about his usage. The goal having both Hines and Cook is a personnel grouping that is almost position-less. Add Mckenzie and Knox and you basically have 4 players who you can line up in the backfield or at WR, several of which are matchup issues. Ideally you try to run a no huddle type of offense with that grouping for a drive or something. 3 1 Quote
Gugny Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 They need to cut his ass. 3 2 10 3 1 1 4 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, fan_in_tx said: I would add that we are not getting the production from McKenzie, that we got from our former slot receiver who I shall not name due to the political leanings of this board. Either it is the play calling or simply McKenzie can't get open in the slot not sure which is the cause. I'm not seeing him targeted much at all for whatever reason. I'd buy all-22 but i dont even know what i'd be looking at. Play design has a lot to do with things, route spacing, is he primary, was the play checked... etc. 3 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) Warrior...man, I love iMcK and he, despite the 4 tds, has been so disappointing this season. I remember the Miami season finale '20. I remember the Pats no punt game...the first no punt game (ha-ha- * U, Pats!). I remember the successful reverses and running plays. Just frustrating as a fan. As noted by B-Cubed, we are strapped right now...not even "Next Bill Up," as it is mores so "Every Bill Available Up!" Edited November 22, 2022 by dollars 2 donuts 2 Quote
zow2 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 McKenzie doesn’t know where to sit in coverages. He doesn’t seem like a natural receiver… he’s the ultimate gadget guy. Sometimes i question his football IQ because someone that quick should be open all the time or have separation. 3 7 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 I would say the Bills have 4 guys that are similar: Hines, Cook, McKenzie and Shakir (most different of the 4). But I'd start getting a real rotation going, using all 4 in motion and have them slice and dice underneath. Those guys should be in constant presnap motion, lining up all over the formation. You're going to need that against W.Gay and N.Bolton of the Chiefs. The Bills have 7-games left. Get this started now. 2 1 Quote
Process Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Very original topic, I hadn't thought about it. He stinks. He's not a starting WR. The time to address it was the off-season. They didnt. There's nothing we can do now other than hope they start playing Shakir more. 2 Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Process said: Very original topic, I hadn't thought about it. He stinks. He's not a starting WR. The time to address it was the off-season. They didnt. There's nothing we can do now other than hope they start playing Shakir more. Signing Crowder doesn't count as addressing it in the off-season? They probably should have been able to predict that he would break his leg. 4 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I could see us making him inactive at Detroit They have 4 active WR's. Quote
Stank_Nasty Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 ten times the issue that Davis is.... 1 Quote
DCbillsfan Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, fan_in_tx said: I would add that we are not getting the production from McKenzie, that we got from our former slot receiver who I shall not name due to the political leanings of this board. Either it is the play calling or simply McKenzie can't get open in the slot not sure which is the cause. I'd add that Allen doesn't trust him as far as catching the ball. McKenzie has some of the damndest things happen to him regarding ball security. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Posted November 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: They have 4 active WR's. Give Gentry a few looks then. He's been on the practice squad for years 1 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Weirdly enough, he seems to have regressed as a receiver and route runner. Not sure what has happened. Quote
Simon Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 Probably the least instinctive football player to wear a Bills uniform since that clueless lacrosse player that us and then Belichik squeezed a couple 9 routes out of before everybody realized he had no idea where he was or what else was happening around him on the field. Chris something or other? 1 1 2 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Simon said: Probably the least instinctive football player to wear a Bills uniform since that clueless lacrosse player that us and then Belichik squeezed a couple 9 routes out of before everybody realized he had no idea where he was or what else was happening around him on the field. Chris something or other? Hogan and he was better than he got credit for. 1 6 Quote
clayboy54 Posted November 22, 2022 Posted November 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Hogan and he was better than he got credit for. 7/11 - always open. 1 Quote
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