Adversity always will hit at some point. The response to it is what is important.

[mjt328]

Been watching this team for 30+ years.

The Buffalo Bills always find the most inexplicable ways to lose football games.

 

They have been dealing with normal football adversity since Week 3 and the injury bug started hitting.  This is not adversity.

 

 

Either this franchise is truly cursed... or we have a locker room full of players who have lost their mental confidence, and know they are going to choke the game away.

 

 

[Big Turk]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:26 PM, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Their wounds are self inflicted. That's what makes this so frustrating. It's not like guys are jumping balls, Allen is telegraphing throws directly to idle defenders. It's very very odd. I'm very confident he'll overcome it but why dig a hole? They all know the goal is the #1 seed, and we're already behind the 8 ball. 

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It's almost like they don't play their best unless their backs are against the wall and they are underdogs, or nobody believes in them.

 

They don't seem comfortable in their own skin as the best team in the NFL.

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[HoofHearted]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:26 PM, Billz4ever said:

No, it's actually just a matter of deciding to not read your smug replies, but go off I guess.

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They're only smug if you read them that way 😉

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:28 PM, Big Turk said:

 

It's almost like they don't play their best unless their backs are against the wall and they are underdogs, or nobody believes in them.

 

They don't seem comfortable in their own skin as the best team in the NFL.

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or maybe, just maybe, they never were the best team in the NFL.

 

I mean, you have to admit that's a possibility at this point.

 

 

[Billz4ever]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:25 PM, Big Turk said:

 

And still only scored 20 points. Which was aided by an Allen INT that gave them the ball inside our 20. Highly unlikely the Browns hold us to less than that at home.

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Yeah, it was highly unlikely for us to blow a 27-10 lead yesterday too, but we did and given that we haven't scored a second half TD in three games, it's not outside the realm of possibility 20 points is enough to beat us, especially if we keep turning the ball over.

[NewEra]

  On 11/14/2022 at 4:29 PM, teef said:

the season is a marathon, and we're on heart break hill *****.  i'm patient enough to give it time.  so many idiots around here.

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Fixed

[Big Turk]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:30 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

or maybe, just maybe, they never were the best team in the NFL.

 

I mean, you have to admit that's a possibility at this point.

 

 

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Actually I think the 3 losses may have cemented the fact they ARE the best team.  Look at what had to happen for those teams who are a combined 23-7 to actually beat us.  The entire secondary had to be out.  Other injured players out. We had to hand them the game multiple times via terrible decisions and plays, turn the ball over multiple times and they STILL barely won and all 3 times trailed late into the 2nd half.  And yet it STILL came down to the last possession of the game all 3 times.  

 

I am not sure there is another team that can have all of those things go against them at the same time in a game against a good team and not get blown out.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Big Turk

[Billz4ever]

Current playoff seeding if the season ended today.  I remember people repeatedly telling me we had nothing to worry about in the AFCE.  

 

Tenn is the last team I want to face in the playoffs right now given our run D.  They aren't the same team we played in week 2 and we aren't the same either.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:39 PM, Big Turk said:

 

Actually I think the 3 losses may have cemented the fact they ARE the best team.  Look at what had to happen for those teams who are a combined 23-7 to actually beat us.  The entire secondary had to be out.  Other injured players out. We had to hand them the game multiple times via terrible decisions and plays, turn the ball over multiple times and they STILL barely won and all 3 times trailed late into the 2nd half.  And yet it STILL came down to the last possession of the game all 3 times.  

 

I am not sure there is another team that can have all of those things go against them at the same time in a game against a good team and not get blown out.

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I mean I get what you're saying but I'm pretty tired of rationalizing and excuse making.

Right now, the Bills are the 6th best team in the conference. Injuries, coaching, execution, doesn't matter WHY. They are what the record says they are.

 

 

[HoofHearted]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:40 PM, Billz4ever said:

Current playoff seeding if the season ended today.  I remember people repeatedly telling me we had nothing to worry about in the AFCE.  

 

Tenn is the last team I want to face in the playoffs right now given our run D.  They aren't the same team we played in week 2 and we aren't the same either.

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Their a zone team - we'll be fine. We've struggled against gap scheme teams. Take away the big run and we held the Vikings to under well under 3 yards a carry yesterday.

[AuntieEm]

  On 11/14/2022 at 4:41 PM, Big Turk said:

 

Neither could the Dolphins but they held Chubb in check yesterday minus a 33 yarder.

 

Based on exactly what?  

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   My expectation for this team was SB appearance and win.  So they have now made the road to the  playoffs a noncertainty given that other teams have ability to control their destiny.  I didn't even feel they needed home field advantage for getting to AFCCG, just it would have been a nice bonus for the local fans who attend games in cold weather.  I  am not one to be able to do so.  So if the game is at KC just means gotta beat them there. 

 

   The biggest obstacle to even getting to  playoffs is the lack of control of own destiny.  Too many things have to line up and I don't expect them to.  That's my reasoning.  Not happy they needed this lesson, but it's how I perceive what has occurred.  Up to them how they respond.  

 

    They need to have a player only meeting and let them air out any gripes amongst themselves and figure out what is most important to them as a team.  

 

    So if they make and win the  SB my original expectation is met albeit in a very distressing fashion.  If they get to SB and lose it, they will have at least battled back to expectation based on talent so would have regained a measure of respect.

If they get to playoffs regardless of how far they get if it isn't getting to the SB then they DID FAIL my expectations and they FÀILED their own because they have never shied away from stating they expect nothing less.  

[Augie]

We have found three VERY creative ways to lose close games to good teams. We have beaten ourselves, basically. We can turn that around. It’s like the Hail Mary loss at Arizona….crazy happenings happen. I can live with that. We got some bad plays out of the way and I hope we can leave them in the past. 

[Billz4ever]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:39 PM, Big Turk said:

 

Actually I think the 3 losses may have cemented the fact they ARE the best team.  Look at what had to happen for those teams who are a combined 23-7 to actually beat us.  The entire secondary had to be out.  Other injured players out. We had to hand them the game multiple times via terrible decisions and plays, turn the ball over multiple times and they STILL barely won and all 3 times trailed late into the 2nd half.  And yet it STILL came down to the last possession of the game all 3 times.  

 

I am not sure there is another team that can have all of those things go against them at the same time in a game against a good team and not get blown out.

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So being 3rd place and 0-2 in the division means we're the best team?  OK, we'll see how this plays out.

[Plano]

lol miami and jets are ahead of us.

 

both of those teams suck, we'll be fine. 

[Nextmanup]

What is this?  A high school football halftime pep talk?!

 

Save this stuff for the actual team or anyone who actually has an ability to do anything about this season.

 

No one here does.

 

 

[teef]

  On 11/14/2022 at 6:24 PM, Nextmanup said:

What is this?  A high school football halftime pep talk?!

 

Save this stuff for the actual team or anyone who actually has an ability to do anything about this season.

 

No one here does.

 

 

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do you have any family members that like you?

[I'm Spartacus]

I'm not on the "bad coaching" bandwagon, but how long do fans continue to use injuries, weather, bad luck, etc. on our losses? Frazier and McDermott refuse to deviate from their philosophies. They are poor in-game adjustment coaches. I hate the bend dont break mentality on D. Need to show some different schemes because other teams have figured us out.

[Billz4ever]

  On 11/14/2022 at 6:21 PM, Plano said:

lol miami and jets are ahead of us.

 

both of those teams suck, we'll be fine. 

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Is this sarcasm?  Hard to tell.

[Big Turk]

  On 11/14/2022 at 5:42 PM, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I mean I get what you're saying but I'm pretty tired of rationalizing and excuse making.

Right now, the Bills are the 6th best team in the conference. Injuries, coaching, execution, doesn't matter WHY. They are what the record says they are.

 

 

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Who would you take to beat the Bills if both teams played their A Game? Even now, the answer for me is noone.

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[Pine Barrens Mafia]

  On 11/14/2022 at 6:55 PM, Big Turk said:

 

Who would you take to beat the Bills if both teams played their A Game? Even now, the answer for me is noone.

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In conference or overall?