Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Out of curiosity, can you please name skill players you consider "all world" and were drafted last 5 years?

 

I would really like to know how many players do you mean and who they are. Genuine question.

Just looking at WR alone:

 

Chase

Waddle

Metcalf

Jefferson

McLaurin

Kupp (2017)

 

And in the up and coming cayegory, you've got guys like Olave and others.

 

In what has been an era of elite WRs in the draft, the Bills have come away with precisely ZERO in the draft. Gabe is good. But he's not a true #2, not nearly reliable enough.

 

How much more difficult would our offense be with one of those guys opposite Diggs?

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Pine Barrens Mafia

[muppy]

14 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I said something yesterday about how Allen ought to be listening to Sinatra at halftime too. 🤷‍♂️

Passion is great at most positions, but at QB being dispassionate is equally as important, imo.

he is an incredibly gifted human being but not a machine. He is young and has all the tools to be successful. He has to learn and grow and mature from each experience. And keep it moving forward.

 

I imagine some might find this next post a bit cheesy . But it as on my feed today and maybe just maybe He needs hear it.

 

 

[RiotAct]

49 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

What is the point of Wawrow throwing this one out there though?  It’s like “I know something you don’t know”.  Dangling it over everyone else so we know how important he is?  Threatening the Bills that he’s going to spill the beans?  Encouraging fans to start making rumors?

he IS a media member…

[Beck Water]

10 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Well, on Sunday, his first comments in the post-game PC threw Josh under the bus.

 

You can listen to it you know, at wgr550.com.

 

Instead of a generic, team oriented comment like "we didn't play well enough to win" or similar crap, he directly went to the issue of turning the ball over so many times.  He said "It's really hard to win when you don't protect the ball like that" or similar.

 

Considering Josh fumbled the exchange and made two HORRID interception throws, if those comments don't shine a lot on the QB, I don't know what would.

 

You can just tell; the guy has a TINY *****.  

 

In case you didn't take note,  Singletary fumbled the ball and there was a fumbled center-QB exchange which neither McDermott nor Dorsey pinned on Josh (I think it was on Josh, and Josh put it on himself).

 

When there are 4 turnovers and 2 are not (or not necessarily) on our QB, I don't understand your interpretation that saying we can't turn the ball over 4 times and win = throwing the QB under the bus.

 

That said, the turnovers, especially the last 2 vs the Vikes and the 2 4Q vs the Jets, are the biggest contributing factors to those 2 losses.  It's a problem that has to get fixed somehow to return to winning.   If McD shrunk from acknowledging that, people would be rightfully calling him out for white-washing the problem.

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:

How many times did Andy Reid fail in the big games before he succeeded? Funny that he’s now considered to be a clutch coach now. 

For every Andy Reid, there is a Sean McVay who won the big game much earlier in his career. Siriani is showing his ability to quickly become a winning coach.

We should be aiming to succeed like these coaches did and not like the Dungies and Reids of the work for who success came much later. 

Also, Reid didnt have a QB like Mahomes to work with earlier in his career. McD has Allen and it will be shame if the opportunity window is wasted. 

 

So. lets stop using such examples and aim higher. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

For every Andy Reid, there is a Sean McVay who won the big game much earlier in his career. Siriani is showing his ability to quickly become a winning coach.

We should be aiming to succeed like these coaches did and not like the Dungies and Reids of the work for who success came much later. 

Also, Reid didnt have a QB like Mahomes to work with earlier in his career. McD has Allen and it will be shame if the opportunity window is wasted. 

 

So. lets stop using such examples and aim higher. 

Bad time to be mentioning Sirianni

 

 

[HappyDays]

What gets me about how McDermott let this game slip away is that he did it being overly aggressive. Remember when the narrative was that McDermott was too conservative? Well we lost this game because we went for it on 4th and 2 and refused to run the ball while up 2-3 scores. I don't understand where this new disposition of his came from. Did the Rams and Titans blowouts skew his understanding of how most NFL games are won?

 

McDermott likes to say after losses that he trusts his players. But he can't let them run the show. I'm sure Allen and the offense want to go for it on every 4th down and always play aggressive. McDermott needs to put the leash back on them. It isnt just an Allen problem. The whole identity of this offense right now is "killshot." The Chiefs had a similar problem last year in their mid-season slump, to the point that many Chiefs fans welcomed the Tyreek Hill trade because it would force the offense to play with more patience.

 

I trust that McDermott will get it fixed. We've always played our best ball in December under him.

[Big Turk]

if McDermott would just take the damn team out for Cheeseburgers on the road this all could have been avoided.

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Arkady Renko said:

How many times did Andy Reid fail in the big games before he succeeded? Funny that he’s now considered to be a clutch coach now. 

Every time until he got Patrick Mahomes. We have our Mahomes

[Gugny]

Just now, uticaclub said:

Every time until he got Patrick Mahomes. We have our Mahomes

 

Has Mahomes ever led the league in INTs?

[Sundancer]

So many bandwagon people. 

 

This is a very talented team. This was a bad loss. So it goes. 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

i am willing to give him some leash to figure out his first time OCing.  There are problems but we have an experienced coach who has 5+ years as HC who should know how to work with young talent and develop someone like Dorsey - who we all knew was raw for the position.

Yes, we now have an experienced HC who should have a much better handle on things. And the roster, by all measures, was superbowl worthy. We dont have time to waste it on coordinators who are not up to the task of the big challenges. Else we will forever keep generating excuses for incomplete seasons. 

 

Here is an idea for Beane:

- Bring in Reich to supplement the offensive staff. Give him whatever title he wants but his role should be to define the game plans, whisper in Allen's ear and be the calming voice when the opposing D is having their way with the O. 

- Give Reich a degree of control over Dorsey and bring back the short/intermediate passing game which focuses on moving the chains methodically

- Start using the pass catching talents of Singletary, Cook, Hines and Johnson

- Sign OBJ as insurance for the playoffs

- Consider (have to see if they are in game shape) evaluating Beasley and Sanders but only on the condition that their talents will be appropriately utilized

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Has Mahomes ever led the league in INTs?

 

He has led the league in dropped INT's 

Just now, Fan in Chicago said:

Yes, we now have an experienced HC who should have a much better handle on things. And the roster, by all measures, was superbowl worthy. We dont have time to waste it on coordinators who are not up to the task of the big challenges. Else we will forever keep generating excuses for incomplete seasons. 

 

Here is an idea for Beane:

- Bring in Reich to supplement the offensive staff. Give him whatever title he wants but his role should be to define the game plans, whisper in Allen's ear and be the calming voice when the opposing D is having their way with the O. 

- Give Reich a degree of control over Dorsey and bring back the short/intermediate passing game which focuses on moving the chains methodically

- Start using the pass catching talents of Singletary, Cook, Hines and Johnson

- Sign OBJ as insurance for the playoffs

- Consider (have to see if they are in game shape) evaluating Beasley and Sanders but only on the condition that their talents will be appropriately utilized

 

No...that is a recipe for disaster.  You don't muddy the water even more, you clear it.

[Bermuda Triangle]

13 minutes ago, muppy said:

he is an incredibly gifted human being but not a machine. He is young and has all the tools to be successful. He has to learn and grow and mature from each experience. And keep it moving forward.

 

I imagine some might find this next post a bit cheesy . But it as on my feed today and maybe just maybe He needs hear it.

 

 

with all due respect, I hope Josh Allen didn't read this.  I saw this on Twitter the other day, and...oof. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

So many bandwagon people. 

 

This is a very talented team. This was a bad loss. So it goes. 

many such examples.

 

this isn't close to being the best team in  the league.

[Shemp]

I hope Josh learns by his mistakes. His wing is hurt and his headspace is off right now. I'm not sure about the decision-making allowing him play against the Vikings. I would have sat him against the Vikes, and then the Browns and Lions. He needs to see the entire field better (does he have tunnel vision?), find easier passes than the ones that he makes into traffic, be patient and exploit the wide-open checkdowns.

[strive_for_five_guy]

37 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I can distinctly remember a Chiefs playoff loss where Tony Dungy opined on national TV, "the Chiefs may win a Superbowl, but they won't do it with Andy Reid as their coach" 

 

Not 100% sure when, it was before Mahomes.  Maybe 2016.

 

 

 

Everything you say may be true, and you may be correct to absolve Wawrow of self-importance or rumor-mongoring, but it doesn't change the question "what is his purpose in throwing this one out there?"

 

? what is it?

 

Based on what @boyst said, sounds like out of frustration for the team’s performance, if anything.  Results just getting to him, combined with the fact of what he knows but can’t really elaborate on.

[muppy]

2 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

with all due respect, I hope Josh Allen didn't read this.  I saw this on Twitter the other day, and...oof. 

why oof? Just too much eh...well noone knows where his headspace actually is so...could it hurt?

[Fan in Chicago]

9 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

 

No...that is a recipe for disaster.  You don't muddy the water even more, you clear it.

What suggestions do you have to clear it? 

 I am not getting the warm fuzzies that the combination of Dorsey and Allen wont regress to the bombs-away approach at inopportune times of critical games

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

What suggestions do you have to clear it? 

 I am not getting the warm fuzzies that the combination of Dorsey and Allen wont regress to the bombs-away approach at inopportune times of critical games

 

Run QB Power once per series every time you are inside the 10 yard line in the RZ.  No excuse not to when it's exceptionally effective and nearly unstoppable.

 

And more motion to help diagnose things and make reads much easier for Allen like KC does for Mahomes.

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Big Turk