JoPoy88 Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Our run game was electric in the first half. Dorsey gave Cook and Hines THREE TOUCHES in the second half. Frazier's defense couldn't stop fourth and 18. It's COACHING. it’s not ONLY the coaching. It’s not that black and white, no matter how hard you want to cry that it is. 4th and 18 sure they got it guy had to make a pretty amazing catch it was not like he was wide open. The guys on the field have to execute too and they didn’t on that play and Allen definitely did not execute when it mattered. Coaching miscues. don’t make you fumble a snap. Edited November 13, 2022 by JoPoy88 1 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Injuries might be a justified answer, if this didn’t happen year in, year out like clockwork. Good coaching can also hide injuries, our coaches are stubborn enough to amplify them I'm sorry, but the Chiefs game is one thing, but TODAY this game was not lost because of a coaching issue. THIS GAME exposed the limitations of continuing to bleed top tier defensive talent due to injury and Josh turning into New York Jets Favre. Edited November 13, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan 1 Quote
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, Big Turk said: The Bills stopped putting up points!!! Third straight week. They haven't scored a 2nd half TD since the KC game. C'mon man...if the Bills offense simply finished the game like they are SUPPOSED to, the game is out of reach. Can't score points if you throw it to the other team. That's a large part of that story the last 3 weeks. 1 Quote
cgg716 Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Crazy that you see a 17 point lead evaporate, on an 81 yard run, and several 3rd and long and 4th down conversions, and blame the offense 1 2 Quote
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, cgg716 said: To go up 13 I believe, just FYI Thank you. Couldn’t remember exactly where we were in the game at that moment. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 I mean we play nickel full time. Yet somehow we can't stop long distances. 2 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Can't score points if you throw it to the other team. That's a large part of that story the last 3 weeks. They have to finish the game...killer instinct like they had the first half of the year. Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, cgg716 said: Crazy that you see a 17 point lead evaporate, on an 81 yard run, and several 3rd and long and 4th down conversions, and blame the offense We can't keep on relying on these backup players to buoy our defense in the secondary... eventually the dam was going to break. Let's hope that Tre and Poyer get back soon. 1 1 Quote
CoudyBills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Sure have, his whole career, where he has been bailing out bad coaching. Today, it's 27-10, and the D gets roasted. He made the inexcusable throw yes, but in a situation he never should have been in 3 points in 29 minutes Quote
Bob in STL Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, cgg716 said: To begin, the last throw by Allen is an absolutely inexcusable play, no doubt. But it’s one play versus a host of others. Vikings converted 3 4th downs, one 3rd and 9, and got a PI call on a 2nd and 22. Yes, they got the goaline stop, but even that put the offense in a position it never should have been in. This doesn’t mean Allen is blameless. But between 13 seconds, hail Murray, the HOU wild card. A 3rd and 22 in Miami this year, and routinely getting the ball run down their throats, including last week vs NYJ. How many times before we admit that this D and it’s coaches just plain suck Terrible take after what just happened today. 1 Quote
cgg716 Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, EasternOHBillsFan said: I'm sorry, but the Chiefs game is one thing, but TODAY this game was not lost because of a coaching issue. THIS GAME exposed the limitations of continuing to bleed top tier defensive talent due to injury. How often, would even the worst D give up 4th and 18? And 2 other 4th downs, and several 3rd and longs? With this defense no 3rd down has ever been safe, regardless of injuries, for years, and you know that. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 If Keenum played and had 2 ints and a lost fumble where would the blame be? 1 Quote
Mango Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 And this needed a new thread why? I disagree with your take. And I also hate the fact that you refuse to review anything else on the front page so you can just post your nonsense. Congrats on your 171 posts….you’ve been an…addition? Quote
cgg716 Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: I mean we play nickel full time. Yet somehow we can't stop long distances. THIS. They can’t stop the run, because they play nickel and smaller, which would be ok most times, if they could stop the pass Quote
McBean Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, cgg716 said: To begin, the last throw by Allen is an absolutely inexcusable play, no doubt. But it’s one play versus a host of others. Vikings converted 3 4th downs, one 3rd and 9, and got a PI call on a 2nd and 22. Yes, they got the goaline stop, but even that put the offense in a position it never should have been in. This doesn’t mean Allen is blameless. But between 13 seconds, hail Murray, the HOU wild card. A 3rd and 22 in Miami this year, and routinely getting the ball run down their throats, including last week vs NYJ. How many times before we admit that this D and it’s coaches just plain suck Beane needs to rip the bandaid off and fire McDermott tonight. Give Payton a blank check. 1 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, McBean said: Beane needs to rip the bandaid off and fire McDermott tonight. Give Payton a blank check. LMFAO no. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: it’s not ONLY the coaching. It’s not that black and white, no matter how hard to want to cry that it is. 4th and 18 sure they got it guy had to make a pretty amazing catch it was not like he was wide open. The guys on the field have to execute too and they didn’t on that play and Allen definitely did not execute when it mattered. Coaching miscues. don’t make you fumble a snap. This is pretty much the post I was about to make. I don't understand why folks need to pin the losses/failures on any singular aspect of the game. Plenty of missed plays and mistakes all around. Also a lot of positives that will get over-looked because (once again) they couldn't seal the deal. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) I’m not going to blame them for the catastrophe that is this defense due to injury. But I’m absolutely going to hammer this front office forever for the complete failure that is the running game. Im not even as mad about how we lost as much as that we should have never been in that position in the first place. Combination of coaches and lack of any kind of run game. Just go out and be perfect every week Josh. Edited November 13, 2022 by Big Blitz Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 McD simply had to take the FG attempt on 4th and 2, puts us up 30-17 and virtually game over. He is not a good game day coach, that much should be obvious to everyone by now. 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: it’s not ONLY the coaching. It’s not that black and white, no matter how hard you want to cry that it is. 4th and 18 sure they got it guy had to make a pretty amazing catch it was not like he was wide open. The guys on the field have to execute too and they didn’t on that play and Allen definitely did not execute when it mattered. Coaching miscues. don’t make you fumble a snap. Coaching isn't putting our talent in the position to win. 1 Quote
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