The Josh Allen Performance Thread

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

 

Twitter

 

Ohh Twitter. Must be true then.

[KeLLy1278]

8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Allen wasn't bad today. He just made a couple big mistakes in critical moments. The offense is literally all on his shoulders, like no other top offense in the league. We take some of those ridiculous plays where he gets out of trouble in the pocket for granted. And then everyone wants to hang him because of a bad throw at the end. Some of hid throws and runs today were eye popping. It sucks that he had a brain fart right at the end but it doesn't erase everything else he did up to that point.

Nobody in any sport will care about what you did in a game if you make terrible mistakes in big spots.  
That sort of thing is good for stat junkies, that’s about it.  Next thing you know we will be talking about how many yards Allen threw in garbage time.

[wppete]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Ohh Twitter. Must be true then.

it’s not censored anymore. A lot of truth there these days. 

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, wppete said:

it’s not censored anymore. A lot of truth there these days. 

 

OK. Keep telling yourself that.

[wppete]

1 minute ago, UKBillFan said:

 

OK. Keep telling yourself that.

it’s true. Open your eyes. 

[Success]

Honestly, the worst thing today was the botched handoff.

 

You simply can't disrespect the defense in a situation like.  They just made a goalline stand for the ages, and you just need to complete 2 clean snaps to get the W.  Even if they tackled him in the EZ, it still would have been tough for the Vikes to drive into FG range.

 

I was really pulling my hair out.  He's not thinking.

 

[KeLLy1278]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

Honestly, the worst thing today was the botched handoff.

 

You simply can't disrespect the defense in a situation like.  They just made a goalline stand for the ages, and you just need to complete 2 clean snaps to get the W.  Even if they tackled him in the EZ, it still would have been tough for the Vikes to drive into FG range.

 

I was really pulling my hair out.  He's not thinking.

 

Fans have a tendency to be prisoners of the moment, myself included.  Josh has a lot to prove as does the coaching staff.  I saw the replay of that last throw and I have no idea what he was doing.  It’s as if he just threw it to throw it without a care in the world.  Extremely underthrown and behind the receiver.  I don’t think Josh has an explanation either.  That’s all.  

[HappyDays]

10 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Nobody in any sport will care about what you did in a game if you make terrible mistakes in big spots.  

 

Get out of here with this crap. If Knox had caught the ball that hit his hands in the endzone, the narrative would be that despite some struggles Allen was the hero of the game, just like it was after the win against KC. This is a Bills forum, not a panel of talking heads. When we talk about Allen's performance we should look at the whole thing, not just the final play. This was NOT the Jets game or the 4th quarter of the Packers game where Allen actually played poorly. In this game he mostly played very well and made his usual number of impossible plays to bail the offense out of bad spots. If you want to blame him for the loss, go for it, but also accept that he was and always is the only reason we're in the game to begin with.

[UKBillFan]

11 minutes ago, wppete said:

it’s true. Open your eyes. 

 

Is it media insiders saying Josh may be benched?

[wppete]

2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Is it media insiders saying Josh may be benched?

Yeah a lot of them. 

[UKBillFan]

Just now, wppete said:

Yeah a lot of them. 

 

Are you able to post them, please? Have no idea who to look for on there.

[KeLLy1278]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Get out of here with this crap. If Knox had caught the ball that hit his hands in the endzone, the narrative would be that despite some struggles Allen was the hero of the game, just like it was after the win against KC. This is a Bills forum, not a panel of talking heads. When we talk about Allen's performance we should look at the whole thing, not just the final play. This was NOT the Jets game or the 4th quarter of the Packers game where Allen actually played poorly. In this game he mostly played very well and made his usual number of impossible plays to bail the offense out of bad spots. If you want to blame him for the loss, go for it, but also accept that he was and always is the only reason we're in the game to begin with.

Save the supercilious tone for your kids Happy.  You don’t get to tell people “what kind of forum” this is, or how to root for a team.  I saw the entire game.  Josh made some great plays.. he also made plays that make you question if he should be in concussion protocol.  If you don’t like it that’s too bad.  Take your frustration out on him not fellow fans.  
 

The silver lining is that this wasn’t a playoff game.  

[HappyDays]

24 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Currently Josh is trying to do too much.  With no running game he's putting it all on his shoulders. Once he starts taking the check down more (which was open all game vs the Jets and probably was today - have to watch the film) he'll be fine and the int's will go away.  speaking of checkdowns, where is Hines in this offense??

 

But our offense can't just be check downs. We have to force the issue a bit because of how bad we are at scoring TDs in the red zone. Our offense by and large does not have issues moving the ball, but the last few games it's had issues punching it in.

[JMM]

1 hour ago, pigpen65 said:

One thing I'm having a hard time reconciling is why the Bills offense went from so dynamic to so one dimensional so quickly. First half of the season there were WR screens and TE screens and back shoulder throws and long balls and corner of the endzone balls a d McKenzie was involved and Gilliam was involved and Shakir was starting to get involved. Then all of a sudden, bam, it's back to Josh scrambling under pressure and Josh rolling out to the right being the Bills biggest plays. Same as his rookie year. People are going to say it's Allen regressing as a player but it really seems like the offensive game planning has regressed to when he was a rookie. It's like there are no designed plays anymore. Just roll out to the right and wave your hand at somebody and wait till they get open

 

 

To be fair in the second half two screens were called, one to Knox, both for whatever were blown and Josh threw them away which was the right decision. 

[US Egg]

Lots to not like, but in the end it was a team loss.

[78thealltimegreat]

21 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Nobody in any sport will care about what you did in a game if you make terrible mistakes in big spots.  
That sort of thing is good for stat junkies, that’s about it.  Next thing you know we will be talking about how many yards Allen threw in garbage time.

You really think Case Keenum wins this game or even gets them a lead? 

[KeLLy1278]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Get out of here with this crap. If Knox had caught the ball that hit his hands in the endzone, the narrative would be that despite some struggles Allen was the hero of the game, just like it was after the win against KC. This is a Bills forum, not a panel of talking heads. When we talk about Allen's performance we should look at the whole thing, not just the final play. This was NOT the Jets game or the 4th quarter of the Packers game where Allen actually played poorly. In this game he mostly played very well and made his usual number of impossible plays to bail the offense out of bad spots. If you want to blame him for the loss, go for it, but also accept that he was and always is the only reason we're in the game to begin with.

So you were satisfied with Allen’s play today?  Yes or no question.

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

You really think Case Keenum wins this game or even gets them a lead? 

Pointless to entertain this.  Why try?

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, KeLLy1278 said:

So you were satisfied with Allen’s play today?  Yes or no question.

Pointless to entertain this.  Why try?

So they win this game with Keenum yea or no? 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, bobobonators said:

Theres a lot of blame to go around. Things aren’t going our way at the moment. We are shooting ourselves in the foot and opposing teams are making miracle (literally) plays vs us. We are in a funk. We need to play a FULL 60 minutes of football. We haven’t done that since week 6

This sums up how I feel. Absolute freak plays happen to the Bills seemingly every loss. The 3rd and 20 Tua pass, The multiple JJ insane catches, the bobbled snap that lead to a TD, etc. And the horrible play calling in crucial moments like not taking the 3 points and guess how much we lost by ? I’m just not a fan of Dorsey. I think Allen makes him look competent. Coaching is terrible in general. They need to drill it into Allen’s skull to throw the the higher percentage underneath passes. Again & again we see Allen throwing these insanely dumb red zone picks. Why have the coaches not addressed this? 
 

It hurts because this team has soooo much potential and I don’t want to see it get flushed down the toilet. You’re right. They shoot themselves in the foot constantly. We have turned into the Baltimore Ravens. This loss hurt. It really did. I know it’s just a game, but damn I was born a Bills fan. It’s in my blood. I hope they get it together. The seasons not over, but if they keep playing like this then we might not even make the playoffs.

[stinky finger]

1 hour ago, KeLLy1278 said:

Erratic throws especially in big spots.  I’m not sure if he was concussed recently but he is make extremely poor decisions.  The pick to lose the game vS the Vikes was a poor decision and a piss poor throw well behind the intended receiver.  
 

At this point.. he could be the best and the worst QB in football from one drive to the next and that’s not a recipe for winning big games.  The concentration just isn’t there.

If he is injured then taking a week off is not outrageous.

 

Except that you have ZERO clue about his concentration level.

 

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