The Play Calling….

[Steptide]

The bills seem to try and go for the throat as soon as they get to the redzone. They have to stop doing this. Josh, Dorsey, whoever, needs to take the easy throws for small (or large gains). Can't just sling it to the endzone as soon as you get inside the 20

[Nextmanup]

1 hour ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

It’s not all on Josh….

 

Both sides of the ball the play calling is skeptical at best….

 

The get away from the run to fast. OT Minnesota game, 2 Timeouts left…. Run the ball. Thought it was prime for a QB sweep.

There are many things to blame, but Josh's INTs are easily the most significant factor in the loss.

 

 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Heard Frank Reich might be available.

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

Don't even start with this... I don't want to hear blame on Frazier, Dorsey, McDermott, Gabe, Knox, Edmunds, etc etc etc... you know, all the usual shifting of blame. 

 

We had every opportunity to win it, and at each turn, Josh made costly mistakes. That simple, regardless of ANYTHING else.

 

We're lucky the Packers were so bad, otherwise it'd be a 3 game losing skid, all with multiple INT games from Allen.

 

Josh is playing like crap.  This has happened before.  My question is can Dorsey do what Daboll has done in the past and get Josh

right again?

[buffblue]

47 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

How many carries has Hines got? Glad we traded for him! Duke is coming off the PS to play goal line and return KOs, who makes those decisions?!

 

This team is frustrating. Don’t be surprised if we finish with a 10-7 record and miss the playoffs. The decision making is that bad!

It's mind boggling. The Bills have been made out to be a model organization by the national media, but it's clear most of the team's success is because of a handful of outstanding players. I have honestly lost faith in this leadership 

Edited November 13, 2022 by buffblue

[CEN-CAL17]

27 minutes ago, buffblue said:

It's mind boggling. The Bills have been made out to be a model organization by the national media, but it's clear most of the team's success is because of a handful of outstanding players. I have honestly lost faith in this leadership 

Like get creative! Put Oliver in a FB, try McKenzie in the backfield, motion him out. Do a trick play for once. There’s zero designed roll outs, naked boots etc… it’s Allen, 3/5 step drop, scramble and hope a WR gets open.

[TFBillsfan]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

To me this loss comes down to 2 plays - going for it on 4th down when they should've just kicked the field goal and Cam Lewis going for the interception when all he needed to do was knock that ball down.  Both were inexcusable

And would have been just a simple play by Lewis to make! SMH  Not taking a FG to go up 13 to start the 4th qtr was beyond defensible. Minny would have needed TWO TD’s to win. Still beyond PO’d about that decision.

[TFBillsfan]

1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

We were already up by 2 scores. Kicking a FG when you're up 10 to go up 13 doesn't change that. 

 

I liked the decision to go for it there. 

Disagree they would have needed TWO TD’s instead of a TD and FG. Big big difference.

[Process]

1 hour ago, Ya Digg? said:

To me this loss comes down to 2 plays - going for it on 4th down when they should've just kicked the field goal and Cam Lewis going for the interception when all he needed to do was knock that ball down.  Both were inexcusable

The play calls on 2nd, 3rd and 4th down were way worse then the decision to go for it.

 

Dorsey ***** sucks. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 hour ago, pennstate10 said:

Nope. Those incompletions were why we were able to come back for a fg. 

If they werent incomplete they most likely run out of time before giving us a chance to fumble and give them a TD. 

[Billz4ever]

1 hour ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

It’s not all on Josh….

 

Both sides of the ball the play calling is skeptical at best….

 

The get away from the run to fast. OT Minnesota game, 2 Timeouts left…. Run the ball. Thought it was prime for a QB sweep.

None of that matters when the game was ours to win.

 

Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open.

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

throw it away then. You are in fg range in OT. You don’t have to win the game on that play. 

He’s still got some growth he needs to realize.  Looking for the kill shot in that situation is bad football 

[CEN-CAL17]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

None of that matters when the game was ours to win.

 

Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open.

 

 

That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… 

 

That play at the end was designed for the end zone. 

[NoSaint]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

He’s still got some growth he needs to realize.  Looking for the kill shot in that situation is bad football 

yup. Ran that play like he was down 4 with 15 seconds. Just reckless.

1 minute ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… 

 

That play at the end was designed for the end zone. 

which is fine as long as you don’t force it. It’s a common play call to send 4 verticals. 

[CEN-CAL17]

Plain and Simple this team currently has an issue running the ball… even when they can, they quickly abandoned it.  Also having issues stopping the run.  
 

All on top of questionable coaching…. I’d ask McD…. “On Cam Lewis botched interception, were all the players and sideline yelling to bat the ball/swat the ball down, and not go for the interception? If not, why not?”….

 

Bet nobody said shiz, a PS guy called up trying to be a hero cause nobody is talking.

[Billz4ever]

11 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… 

 

That play at the end was designed for the end zone. 

Most passing plays have multiple reads at short, medium, and longer distances. The underneath was open.  The pass to Gabe was well covered.  You never throw that ball.

 

There was nothing wrong with the play.  Josh forced the ball when he had other options that were open.

 

 

[popcornpam]

19 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

None of that matters when the game was ours to win.

 

Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open.

 

 

Why didn’t  our head coach take a time out during Overtime to talk it over with Josh and the the OC, when we were down towards the goal line.
 

Why was he saving it? It’s not like we were going back on defense. 

[KOKBILLS]

2 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Should've never gotten to that point if Lewis knocks that ball down

 

100%...I know it's a split second thing...But the fact that he tried to catch that ball instead of just about anything else is the only reason Jefferson has a chance to make the miraculous play...Going for the catch kept the ball right there. It's a lack of understanding situational football...Knocking it away is actually better than the INT there...Ugh...Can't believe that happened...

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, MPT said:

 

Yes, but all his receivers are in the endzone for absolutely no ***** reason. The only guy who should have been that far down field is Gabe. Instead, Dorsey is forcing Allen to either scramble or throw into an endzone 20 yards away that is packed with defenders.

 

both were issues today.  Play should never have been called, and JA should have thrown it away. 

[Billz4ever]

Just now, popcornpam said:

Why didn’t  our head coach take a time out during Overtime to talk it over with Josh and the the OC, when we were down towards the goal line.
 

Why was he saving it? It’s not like we were going back on defense. 

Take a T.O. for what?  We were moving the ball just fine.  

 

And even if they do take a T.O., so what?  What says Josh still doesn't force that ball?