NFL Week 10 - Vikings at Bills post game thread

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Safety was not the best option in that situation. You turn a 4 point game into a 2 point game and give them the ball with 0:44 and one timeout, needing only a field goal for the win.

 

The best option was a Tua-style slant to Diggs for 5 yards. Safe throw, quick throw, minimal chance for disaster, with the upside of: if you complete it, you win the game (one time out and two kneels). The only result that is a disaster is a turnover. Even the QB sneak had a slightly greater risk (but still very minimal) for what happened. It's a ridiculously low percentage, you would not factor failing to execute the center-QB exchange into your decision because it's the most basic of basics, and is roughly the same nil risk whether a sneak or run or pass. Unless someone completely chokes.

Which, they did 

[Solomon Grundy]

8 minutes ago, Flucod said:

There is literally a screenshot showing Motor without a defensive player within 15 yards.

Josh hasn't been seeing the field very well the past couple of games. This team is also missing that bonafide "slot" guy. 

[SCBills]

Just now, UKBillFan said:

 

I do think we need some balance here. We put up 30 points. Josh looked far more like himself in a positive sense today than he did in the hellhole of next week. He threw two gatbage interceptions plus had a horrible fumble (though the playcall was horrendous there) but he also made some fantastic plays as well. Would I say he was absolute garbage this week? Probably not. Not at his best and cost us the game but not absolute garbage.

If we simply execute after the defense won the game … that’s a vintage Allen game.  He played really well.  Only pick was on a 4th down throw he had to let go or turn over on downs anyway. 
 

However, the fumble and game ending pick invokes shades of Tennessee/Simmons last year and the issue that was glaring obvious against GB and NYJ. 
 

Those two plays, justifiably so, tanked his game performance. 

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

He disappeared in the 2nd half, stopped for no gain several times.

Yeah….those were his fault. 

[SoMAn]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I'm not in the mood for this kind of sarcasm. 

I can’t sit around waiting for your mood swing before I can be a smartass. 

[Process]

9 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I mean, why not take the intentional safety after running out 10 or so seconds?

 

That error cost the game 

Anyone that thinks the right move was to take an intentional safety should just stop talking football. 

 

There is zero case for taking an intentional safety there. 

[Iverwig]

1 minute ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Really hope we can land OBJ. The Bills get zero production out the slot. The loss of Cole Beasley is really hurting us. He was Josh’s security blanket 

OBJ is not coming to Buffalo. Buffalo may have been the favorite but he will probably go to Dallas. No state tax and closer to his home. 

[Ralonzo]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Which, they did 

 

If you cant execute a center-QB exchange in that situation, tell me what play there is in the play book that works? Even an intentional safety needs ball snapped.

[Danger Mouse]

7 minutes ago, Gene1973 said:

Dabol>Dorsey I think is a good place to look.

 

I mean Daboll is now a 7-2 head coach. So it's sort of inevitable. 

 

(Of course, Daboll was dog ***** too last year whenever we lost.)

[BillMafia716ix]

Singletary can’t wait to get out of Buffalo after this season and I don’t blame him. The way this coaching staff continues to disrespect him is ridiculous. It’s been going on 3yrs now…..

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Ralonzo said:

 

If you cant execute a center-QB exchange in that situation, tell me what play there is in the play book that works? Even an intentional safety needs ball snapped.

Truth.

 

Just a *****, miserable loss. 

[TheCockSportif]

12 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Just get in the playoffs and wins 3 or 4 in a row. This team is highly capable of doing that. 

 

 

Playoffs, I would be shocked if they didn't make it.  SB and a win, not seeing it.

[UKBillFan]

Just now, SCBills said:

If we simply execute after the defense won the game … that’s a vintage Allen game.  He played really well.  Only pick was on a 4th down throw he had to let go or turn over on downs anyway. 
 

However, the fumble and game ending pick invokes shades of Tennessee/Simmons last year and the issue that was glaring obvious against GB and NYJ. 
 

Those two plays, justifiably so, tanked his game performance. 

 

Though even after the fumble, his drive down the field also felt like typical Josh in a good way and what elite QBs should be doing. Then the offensive series before the pick was good Josh as well. But every play at the moment just feels like a screw up is round the corner.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Same mindset of the people that just say “we’ll be back” when you lose in the playoffs. People were probably thinking at in 99. You never know if or when you’ll be back. Keep pissing away chances at having home field advantage. You aren’t going to KC in the playoffs and winning. That’s why these losses matter

[GolfandBills]

3 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Dorsey is showing how green he is.  I would suggest to bring in a former OC (Frank) to help him with the game plans and play calls.  Whatever adjustments he has done, at halftime, in the past three games has done squat.   He abandons the run too quickly.  Singletary had a solid day.   When a head burn some clock.  The short pass game disappeared.  This team has the talent to score in the 30s.  The defense has crashed to earth.   Frazier should be gone after this season.   I have seen his defenses come up short in pressure situations.  

Let’s see what Jim Kelly is up to.  Maybe bring in Bruce Smith to run the defense too 🙄

[Billz4ever]

12 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Just get in the playoffs and wins 3 or 4 in a row. This team is highly capable of doing that. 

 

 

Interesting logic.

 

It's almost like you're saying losing in November doesn't make making the playoffs harder.

 

You realize we're third in the Division now, right?  

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

15 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Just get in the playoffs and wins 3 or 4 in a row. This team is highly capable of doing that. 

 

 

Bro, you realize the playoffs are not even a given, right? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

15 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Just get in the playoffs and wins 3 or 4 in a row. This team is highly capable of doing that. 

 

 

Yeah - just suck seeing them piss away a great start and now home field advantage may be out of the picture even if they win out, which they won’t. 

[jcamm1966]

at the point where josh scares the heck out of me 

[BillMafia716ix]

Definitely more than capable. Josh not playing good ball right now..def rather it be now than later though. Really hope we can land OBJ. The loss of Cole Beasley is killing us