NFL Week 10 - Vikings at Bills post game thread

[BRH]

3 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

Justin Jefferson made incredible plays down the stretch. I’m not sure how many of those would’ve been prevented by Hyde, Poyer, White & Elam.  I’d hope enough to get us the W, but I don’t know. 

 

Jefferson is *****in elite.  He made plays.  All respect to him.  That said, he did it all against a backup secondary.  Facts.

[Ralonzo]

2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Allen?

 

He made the decision to not go for the field goal?

 

ST was trotting out there, Allen wouldn't leave. McD backed down, left the O out and let him try 4th and 2 after failing on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2. The results were as dumb as the decision, and ultimately was the margin of loss.

[Maine-iac]

Dorsey needs to sign up for a Chan Gailey master class online and learn some screen game and throwing to the FB.  Our screen game is horrid.  Of the 3 or 4 screens I saw Josh had to throw it into the dirt on 3 of them.

[Mark Vader]

59 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

This is 100% not a Super Bowl team. It’s not even close. List of teams better than the Bills. 
 

KC obviously 

Miami

Bengals 

Raiders

Jags

Broncos

Pats

Chargers

Browns

Texans

Steelers

Speaking of someone who needs attention.

[MarlinTheMagician]

This board is unbelievable.  I understand disappointment.  But three weeks ago, all were ready to crown Josh.  He made some bad throws against the Pack in the 2nd half and now he is pressing.  You can see it in his face, body language and decision-making.  But he will sort it out.  Needs to start having fun and let the game come to him.  He will.  Everybody need to chill.  

[Bob in STL]

35 minutes ago, SCBills said:

No team has had this many absurd losses in recent memory. 
 

Hail Murray, 13 seconds and now this epic disaster. 
 

This isn’t normal. 

Unfortunately, this team is writing their story on blowing leads and failing to close games.  

 

Lots of their problems closing out games is due to the lack of a running game.  It is that simple.  The middle of that OL is not good and it's hard to run when your backs get hit in the backfield.   

 

You have to wonder if the team confidence is impacted in close games based on the continuous poor results.  

[TheFunPolice]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Unfortunately I think you are right; his inconsistency is a part of who he is.

 

 

 

We have a more athletic Favre.

 

However, Favre was at his best with a taskmaster (Holmgren) who helped him keep his propensity for bad choices in check

[UKBillFan]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

You really think the commercials are responsible for this?

 

When player's sign up to commercials I do think it's a sign of believing their own hype. It's not like he needs more money. is it? He's a Quarterback, not a promoter. Ditch future deals and focus on the game.

[Roundybout]

Just found out that Cook and Hynes had a combined three touches in the second half LMAO don't let Dorsey back in the building. 

[OldTimer1960]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

The mid season slump is officially an annual tradition.

 

Every season they have a stretch of games mid season where the defense can’t stop anything and Allen + the offense struggle.

 

Its going to cost them the #1 seed again, and maybe even the division this time.

 

May cost them a playoff spot altogether.

[Donuts and Doritos]

2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

 

A good coach has the "so what are you going to do differently?" Conversation 

 

Hopefully had that after GB second half & Jets game, so this will be the third time. Seems like Allen is thinking "thanks for the nice Boring advice Coach". 

 

[BeastMaster]

4 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

You're just choosing an arbitrary line between coaching and player execution. It doesn't work like that.

That's what you want to believe. 

 

You have been a staunch defender of the coaches for some time now...so I think it might be you that is on the wrong side here

 

Allen is a different player under this OC, and not in a good way. You must recognize that and have some tough conversations to fix it, or expect to receive criticism and blame.

 

It ultimately falls on McD...whether you are willing to accept it or not. 

 

Or you can say Allen is regressing and not as good as we thought, but the evidence points to the coaching change this season

[BIGFOOTspaceman]

1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

Speaking of someone who needs attention.

😜

[TheFunPolice]

2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

ST was trotting out there, Allen wouldn't leave. McD backed down, left the O out and let him try 4th and 2 after failing on 2nd and 2, and 3rd and 2. The results were as dumb as the decision, and ultimately was the margin of loss.

 

Belichick would tell "the QB" to get his ass off the field.

 

That's why Brady is a Buc now. But it worked. 

 

Coaches need to make decisions and be the boss sometimes.

Edited November 13, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[Buffalo Ballin]

Please remember that Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and coach Phil Jackson couldn't close out games against the Detroit Pistons 3 years in a row in the playoffs.

 

Peyton Manning and the Colts lost before they won.

Mike Tyson got knocked out by Buster Douglas.

Tom Brady and the undefeated Patriots got their first loss at the Super Bowl by the hands of Eli Manning.

[finn]

1 hour ago, BananaB said:

MVP talk is out the window. 3 games in a row multiple turnovers in the red zone. 3 game in a row 3 points in the second half. Not sure why we even looking to endzone there. Plenty time, two timeouts. 

We need to adjust to a new reality. Josh Allen is still incredible, but he's not the superman we thought he was. That's ok, but it will take some getting used to. His ceiling is past Mahomes, Brady, all of them, but his floor is below them. They can still win the Super Bowl, just not in juggernaut fashion. 

 

[Playoffs?]

I still can’t get over this one. The game was WON. You’re on the 1-inch line with 40 seconds left. Dont take a safety. Don’t fumble the ball. 
 

Roll Allen out to the right with blockers in front of him. If the defense gets there, throw it away. 2nd down. Try it again. Try it again.  If you break the goal line, dive forward and burn the clock out. Freaking punt it back if you absolutely must, and leave them with no time.  Anything. 
 

Just do not take a safety or fumble the ball!!!  
 

Yeah it’s hindsight, but so obvious.
Same as the 13 seconds. Tie em up on the line, drop guys into coverage. Don’t worry about the sidelines. Watch Kelce in the middle of the field. 
 

The Bills come out of these games looking like such morons. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

Jefferson is *****in elite.  He made plays.  All respect to him.  That said, he did it all against a backup secondary.  Facts.

what was insane is that the coverage was really good for just about all of his catches. 

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, BeastMaster said:

That's what you want to believe. 

 

You have been a staunch defender of the coaches for some time now...so I think it might be you that is on the wrong side here

 

Allen is a different player under this OC, and not in a good way. You must recognize that and have some tough conversations to fix it, or expect to receive criticism and blame.

 

It ultimately falls on McD...whether you are willing to accept it or not. 

 

Or you can say Allen is regressing and not as good as we thought, but the evidence points to the coaching change this season

 

If anything Josh was a better player under this OC pre bye. Something happened at the bye, and I'm not sure what.

[Mark Vader]

52 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

Remember when Fitz started 5 and 2 or something like that and we just slid and slid and missed the playoffs.  

Remember last season when we lost to Pittsburgh & Jacksonville?