Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Chris farley said: OMG these rebels want extreme concessions. Per Politico: *A one-member “motion to vacate”: The GOP leader appears to have finally acquiesced to a demand to lower the threshold needed to force a vote ousting a speaker to just one member. While McCarthy originally indicated that restoring the one-member “motion to vacate” was a red line, his allies now argue that there’s not a huge practical difference between this and his previous offer of requiring five members to trigger the vote. Rules Committee seats for the Freedom Caucus: McCarthy is prepared to give the House Freedom Caucus two seats on the powerful House Rules Committee, which oversees the amendment process for the floor. (Some conservatives are still holding out for four seats on the panel.) There are also talks about giving a third seat to a conservative close to the Freedom Caucus but not in it — someone like Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Who would pick those members is still under discussion. Typically, it’s the speaker’s prerogative, but conservatives want to choose their own members for these jobs. *A vote on term limits: This is a key demand of Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), who has proposed a constitutional amendment limiting lawmakers to three terms in the House. *Major changes to the appropriations process: Fears of another trillion-plus-dollar omnibus spending bill have been a major driver of the conservative backlash to McCarthy. The brewing deal includes a promise for standalone votes on each of the 12 annual appropriations bills, which would be considered under what is known as an “open rule,” allowing floor amendments to be offered by any lawmaker. All three are things I hear both righties and lefties demanding. term limits, actual appropriation bills vs omnibus. that has a lot of support outside that building. seems like needed reform. Great. So gitter done!
BillsFanNC Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Sure, it's the speaker vote that's embarrassing for America. Note how his inability to find a word is : "President Biden jokes..." 1
ChiGoose Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Chris farley said: OMG these rebels want extreme concessions. Per Politico: *A one-member “motion to vacate”: The GOP leader appears to have finally acquiesced to a demand to lower the threshold needed to force a vote ousting a speaker to just one member. While McCarthy originally indicated that restoring the one-member “motion to vacate” was a red line, his allies now argue that there’s not a huge practical difference between this and his previous offer of requiring five members to trigger the vote. Rules Committee seats for the Freedom Caucus: McCarthy is prepared to give the House Freedom Caucus two seats on the powerful House Rules Committee, which oversees the amendment process for the floor. (Some conservatives are still holding out for four seats on the panel.) There are also talks about giving a third seat to a conservative close to the Freedom Caucus but not in it — someone like Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky. Who would pick those members is still under discussion. Typically, it’s the speaker’s prerogative, but conservatives want to choose their own members for these jobs. *A vote on term limits: This is a key demand of Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.), who has proposed a constitutional amendment limiting lawmakers to three terms in the House. *Major changes to the appropriations process: Fears of another trillion-plus-dollar omnibus spending bill have been a major driver of the conservative backlash to McCarthy. The brewing deal includes a promise for standalone votes on each of the 12 annual appropriations bills, which would be considered under what is known as an “open rule,” allowing floor amendments to be offered by any lawmaker. All three are things I hear both righties and lefties demanding. term limits, actual appropriation bills vs omnibus. that has a lot of support outside that building. seems like needed reform. I don’t know how you operate a house of Congress with a one member vote to vacate. Does it have to come from the speakers caucus or can any Dem force a vote every hour?
Westside Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: I don’t know how you operate a house of Congress with a one member vote to vacate. Does it have to come from the speakers caucus or can any Dem force a vote every hour? Why would they do that? 1
ChiGoose Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Westside said: Why would they do that? Even if it’s not a Dem, there are 20 Republicans who don’t want McCarthy. What’s to stop Gaetz or anyone else from calling a vote for speaker the minute it’s politically convenient?
Tiberius Posted January 5, 2023 Author Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Even if it’s not a Dem, there are 20 Republicans who don’t want McCarthy. What’s to stop Gaetz or anyone else from calling a vote for speaker the minute it’s politically convenient? Or just because they feel like it! It would make this clown show go on for two years
Westside Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, ChiGoose said: Even if it’s not a Dem, there are 20 Republicans who don’t want McCarthy. What’s to stop Gaetz or anyone else from calling a vote for speaker the minute it’s politically convenient? That’s ridiculous. Stop being a political hack and put the country first, not your party. Can you even do that? Just now, Tiberius said: Or just because they feel like it! It would make this clown show go on for two years I thought you were against causing chaos in government? 1
ChiGoose Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Westside said: That’s ridiculous. Stop being a political hack and put the country first, not your party. Can you even do that? What are you even talking about? I’m just saying that with a one member threshold to call a vote for speaker, it just takes one of 435 members of the House to decide their ego or career will benefit from publicly denouncing McCarthy and calling for a vote. Do you think all members of the House are so noble that not a single one would do this? Edited January 5, 2023 by ChiGoose
Tiberius Posted January 5, 2023 Author Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Westside said: I thought you were against causing chaos in government? (Dare I even ask) What? 1
BillsFanNC Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Wait...so you're telling me that the left/media lies constantly? Say it ain't so! 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 51 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I don’t know how you operate a house of Congress with a one member vote to vacate. Does it have to come from the speakers caucus or can any Dem force a vote every hour? Before the 116th Congress that began in 2019, any member could, in theory, bring forward the motion at any time and force a vote on it. This changed to requiring the approval of the majority of the party bringing forward the motion. Though the option was available, it was only used twice — once in 1910 against Speaker Joseph Cannon (R-IL) and in 2015 when then-Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) tried to use it against Speaker John Boehner (R-OH). Neither of the previous motions was successful in ousting the speaker but did weaken their political power. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/what-is-motion-to-vacate-kevin-mccarthy And if the parts about wanting term limits and 12 separate appropriation bills is factual, that has a lot of support outside DC.
BillsFanNC Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Want embarrassing? Here's a racist tweet from a commie in congress. 1
SoCal Deek Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Want embarrassing? Here's a racist tweet from a commie in congress. First order of business in the new Congress....censure this loser! Can you imagine an elected official would actually put that in writing? 1 2
nedboy7 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 Trump says it was great for Republicans for McCarthy to fail 6 times in a row now. Always a step ahead this guy. 😂 But prior to that declaration.... “Some really good conversations took place last night, and it’s now time for all of our GREAT Republican House members to VOTE FOR KEVIN, CLOSE THE DEAL, TAKE THE VICTORY,” Trump wrote. “REPUBLICANS, DO NOT TURN A GREAT TRIUMPH INTO A GIANT & EMBARRASSING DEFEAT.” I guess you got to roll with the punches and create alternate narratives. 1
BillsFanNC Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: First order of business in the new Congress....censure this loser! Can you imagine an elected official would actually put that in writing? Well apparently nedboy can. Or he thinks a sitting member of Congress publicly making racist statements is amusing for some reason. 1
nedboy7 Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Well apparently nedboy can. Or he thinks a sitting member of Congress publicly making racist statements is amusing for some reason. It's just funny what triggers you after all the BS that comes from Congress members. It's quite pathetic I have to explain this to you.
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, BillStime said: Ask Julie... Julie? Was she a backup singer on the Eagles tour at one time or another?
BillsFanNC Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: It's just funny what triggers you after all the BS that comes from Congress members. It's quite pathetic I have to explain this to you. No you found socals post amusing. Not mine. So then please explain what you found amusing about socals post? Was it his suggestion that the house censure her for a totally irresponsible and racist comment about a colleague? Or is it funny that he'd wonder how any elected official would actually put a string of words so vile in writing? Or both? Thanks. 1
BillStime Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Julie? Was she a backup singer on the Eagles tour at one time or another? Ask your boss. 1
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