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So are we debating if there’s enough talent on the roster? Cause my answer would be yes. 
Wouldn’t it be more on the coaches if they can still get production from that talent while missing a key player? I’m not sure exactly what we’re going for here. What if the O line suddenly run blocks and pass blocks well above average cause Keenum is a traditional passer who gets the ball out super fast? What if playaction actually gets defenses to bite since we might really hand the ball off? So many variables I don’t think one game is a fair judgement although I’m sure the GDT will be full of it though. 

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2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

This is a good thread, and the reactions to it are so typical of this place. How dare you suggest that something might not go well or that Beane might not have done a perfect job? Fans around here can't handle the possibility. Only blind positivity allowed.

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2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

Brandon Beane has built a solid roster. Enough with this sh*t

 

really.  I love Bean, but to say it’s not an evaluation of him or the offensive scouts is nonsense.    How is the OL and running game?  The question here is how much did Bean rely on JA to support the offense while building up the D and often wasting picks (Basham) doing so?   

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I think Sunday has better a chance to ruin a lot of Dorsey goodwill.

 

not to say he’s been terrible or even bad but I don’t think he’s been great but having a player like Josh Allen under center covers up a lot.

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I think Sunday has better a chance to ruin a lot of Dorsey goodwill.

 

not to say he’s been terrible or even bad but I don’t think he’s been great but having a player like Josh Allen under center covers up a lot.

 

The support for Dorsey will obviously be in correlation to how the offense looks. We started well but, since the bye, have become more reliant on big plays and avoiding the dink and dunk. I'm not sure why but it's been to the detriment of the offense.

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To an extent, you already know everything you need to know to evaluate Beane.

 

He could have produced better ROI, draft-wise, at the DE and RB positions, and he seems to half-ass his way at improving the OL, likely as a result of the above and a mandate from McD to prioritise the defensive side of the ball, hoping that Josh could make up for any offensive shortcomings.

 

He is willing to slightly overpay to retain homegrown talent but sometimes you have no alternatives.

 

He is a solid GM and that's a job in which you can't be perfect.

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3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

 

How much on Sunday will be an evaluation of Brandon Beane? Far less than the the evaluation of Beane thus far this year given time lost to injury on the defensive side of the ball.  Which so far I'd evaluate as pretty damn good. 

 

If Josh is out this Sunday or past I wouldn't expect the same level of success on the offensive side. But I wouldn't put that on 'roster construction' - last time I checked it's QB driven league and as the drought years should remind us that's not an easy position to staff let alone have a strong backup for.

 

 

 

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The whole “best roster in the NFL” BS will end quickly without Allen at QB.  The reality is a piss poor OL, weak at best WR core beyond Diggs, under performing/under talented TE/RB group.  All of this is easy to cover with Superman at QB, put an average QB back there and it will be exposed.  Instead, people will inevitably blame Keenum for not being Josh. 

The D is crushed with injuries, I’ll give them a pass, but they are going to have to carry the team if Allen isn’t out there.

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4 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No meaningful evaluations can be made based on one game.

 

i go a step further:

 

Meaningful evaluations can NOT be made without all meaningful players available

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Every game is an evaluation of your GM.  Along with every draft pick, signing, release, extension and trade.  Every move a GM makes is scrutinized, this game is no different.

 

The thing that a lot of people struggle with is the sample size.

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4 hours ago, Einstein said:

Good topic.

 

     And pretty spot on.  The other guys have to step up and win the game without Josh.  If they are the competitors they claim they step up  get the job done.  

 

    It will also be interesting to see how Dorsey gameplans the offense for Keenums skillet.  And will the defense be able to hold the Vikings to a low score than what our offense can produce.  If all we score is a fg then defense needs a shutout.  Or it can just go and score some points and give the offense help if it is mis-firing again.  

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, FireChans said:

I think Sunday has better a chance to ruin a lot of Dorsey goodwill.

 

not to say he’s been terrible or even bad but I don’t think he’s been great but having a player like Josh Allen under center covers up a lot.

   

    Or he could make a mark and gameplan with keenum well enough the defense isn't worn out and both sides complement the other and we have a great game and the team rides zthrough the rest of the season buoyed with the confidence they can get the job done even with Josh on the bench hurt.  

 

 

 

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