How much on Sunday will be an evaluation of Brandon Beane?

[Mango]

Reasonable talking point. 
 

So much of the conversation this week and last has been:

WR’s suck

Run Game/RB’s suck

Run D sucks

OL sucks

 

 

The board consensus seems to be that Brandon Bean is a witch. Assembled the best roster in the league. But the board consensus also seems to be that we aren’t good enough to beat anybody without Josh. 
 

I don’t think one game is an indicator positive or negative. But we also can’t have it both ways. 

 

 

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, SCBills said:

I don’t know that a ton of judgment can be made on one game if they come out and struggle offensively.  
 

Would be notable if they come out and look competent to good.. 

 

-If a running game is established. 
 

-If skill players have defined roles.  It’s not just deep shots and reluctant check downs. 
 

Not that it would be a criticism or Allen or Dorsey, but maybe there is “move the chains” talent and hyper-aggressiveness is a detriment at times. 

 

     Sometimes it's better to be the plodding tortoise than the fast rabbit.  Hoping given Josh loving to play football extends to point he hates to miss even practice and it really drives home taking the easy plays more to get defenses scrambling for relief and opens up the big plays.  

 

   Let the opponents be the team in frantic mode trying to find answers and needing to find adjustments and hopefully failing to find any that work.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by AuntieEm

[Airseven]

Beane is already being evaluated for a poor draft and failure to upgrade a mediocre OL that’s supposed to protect the franchise investment.

 

The guy took Bernard over OL. The guy took Bernard over OL.

[That's No Moon]

6 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

Brandon Beane has built a solid roster. Enough with this sh*t

I don't think anyone envies our offensive line. That doesn't matter though. Everything is fine.

[muppy]

6 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

What if Keenum outperforms Josh? 🤪

HALLELUJAH ..that would mean all this #17  injury angst was for naught

 

That would be sweet actually....But  he better not get too attached to that role. Back to holding a clipboard sooner rather that later for you Case

[Nelius]

This should really happen every game, but the offensive skill positions, and really even the O-line should be under scrutiny at this point. All of Gabe-Knox-Crowder has been a very unfortunate swing and miss so far for the most part. We all expected at least a couple if not all of them to take a leap this year. That clearly hasn't happened yet.

 

Probably been said already, but Dorsey's going to be under the most intense evaluation this weekend, which makes more overall sense than Beane right now. Whether it's Case or a limited Josh, all eyes on the Dorse. Eyes should roll over to Beane if the d-line falls apart and allows Cousins to torch for a high scoring easy win.

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 hours ago, Airseven said:

Beane is already being evaluated for a poor draft and failure to upgrade a mediocre OL that’s supposed to protect the franchise investment.

 

The guy took Bernard over OL. The guy took Bernard over OL.

Although I don't disagree,  I also don't agree.  And I keep going round and round with this as well. When I look at it from one side, I can almost understand the thoughts. We had Dawkins and Morse,  no changes to be made there. Brown was expected to improve (totally understandable), Bates played well and deserved his place (albeit, I wanted him at LG). So the only spot that was being looked at to upgrade was one Guard and depth. Saffold I believe was one of the best guards available in FA. I get it. So from all this, I can see why OL wasn't prioritized during the draft and I don't think anyone we would have drafted from rnd 3 (89) and later would have been any better than what we currently have. 

 

As to the draft, I think it was a good one for Beane. We needed at least 2 CB'S. One to replace Wallace and a top corner with Tre's injury (check), needed a punter ( check, bad luck?), a WR (check), a RB with some speed and receiving ability (check, needs to be used more). Then Beane took a some late swings, Tenuta(OL), Spector (LB) and then there was Bernard. Bernard was a headscratcher to me as well, but, with Milano getting dinged up occasionally,  I can almost see why Beane made the pick.

 

So with all that being said, who would you have taken at 89 or later that would have improved our OL over what we have?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Yes because Beane built a roster around too many players who have been hurt this season.

 

Does seem like this year is a make up for the past two seasons, not much season ending, but just continual bumps and bruises.

[Greg S]

Beane has done a good job overall. This is a good team 6-2. Back-to-back division champs. Four playoff appearances in 5 years. However, he still needs to improve the OL and if Singeltary isn't the answer then RB as well. This team relies on Josh too much. That needs to change. I thought our WR group would be better. Diggs is great but the rest have been somewhat disappointing. 

[T master]

If by chance Josh can't play there will definitely be a weakness at that position especially when Josh is on his game not so much last week though Keenum can play that good & better than we saw out of him in that game .

 

But who knows just maybe if Josh is out they may have to depend more on the run game & actually use it a bit more in the over all game plan rather than just dumping it all on Josh's shoulders so they may be able to get a better grip on it with Cook & Hines in the mix which they need to do ! 

 

I still am of the thought that if all were healthy the weak point in this team is the run game but by the actions of Beane he is always looking for the answer or another piece of the puzzle to make it better they just need to use it more than just a hand full of plays per game because they will need it & last week would have been a really good time to know you have that in your back pocket !!

[Buffalo03]

13 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

really.  I love Bean, but to say it’s not an evaluation of him or the offensive scouts is nonsense.    How is the OL and running game?  The question here is how much did Bean rely on JA to support the offense while building up the D and often wasting picks (Basham) doing so?   

It's a solid team he built playing with a backup QB. This negatively needs to stop. I'm tired of all the "how do we fix the Bills" or "this team is not a Super bowl contender" after one game. Now it's "this game is to evaluate Beane". Seriously, gtfoh with this garbage. We're a 6-2 team that's number 1 in the conference. What exactly are people looking for this week? We're playing without Allen, of course it's gonna be downgraded a bit. So, what exactly will make people happy this week? Quite frankly for me, just win the f*cking game. That's it

9 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

I don't think anyone envies our offensive line. That doesn't matter though. Everything is fine.

Our offensive line hasn't been great all season. Why do we need a backup QB to make a decision on Beane?

Edited November 11, 2022 by Buffalo03

[DrDawkinstein]

Show me a team that doesnt have a significant drop off when their Franchise QB is out, and I'll show you a team with a bad Franchise QB.

[Greg S]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

Show me a team that doesnt have a significant drop off when their Franchise QB is out, and I'll show you a team with a bad Franchise QB.

 

Rush did more than fine when Dak was out.

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Greg S said:

 

Rush did more than fine when Dak was out.

 

Exactly.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

The only thing that can be evaluated is if Keenum is a competent backup QB. And even then Minn D is good. Josh could struggle against them too. 

[That's No Moon]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Our offensive line hasn't been great all season. Why do we need a backup QB to make a decision on Beane?

You don't. If they go into another November swoon questions need to be asked though 

[without a drought]

I'd give them at least a quarter before replacing him with Eric Wood.

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

The only thing that can be evaluated is if Keenum is a competent backup QB. And even then Minn D is good. Josh could struggle against them too. 

 

Vikings are ranked #25 in total defense. 20th against the pass, 2nd worst in the league against the run.

[US Egg]

So the natural progression of this thread should be should Beane be fired if the Bills skid without Allen.

 

So silly to be trying to make the case Beane is inept.

[That's No Moon]

11 hours ago, Mango said:

Reasonable talking point. 
 

So much of the conversation this week and last has been:

WR’s suck

Run Game/RB’s suck

Run D sucks

OL sucks

 

 

The board consensus seems to be that Brandon Bean is a witch. Assembled the best roster in the league. But the board consensus also seems to be that we aren’t good enough to beat anybody without Josh. 
 

I don’t think one game is an indicator positive or negative. But we also can’t have it both ways. 

 

 

I don't think the Bills have the best roster in the league. I also think this group has shown significant blind spots in talent evaluation at OL, DL, and RB which leave them vulnerable in ways a top level team shouldn't be. They've wasted assets on players then had to spend more assets to replace or supplant those wasted assets and still have players in key positions that aren't any good.