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If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

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11 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

 

If purely Josh is missing, and we look a mess on offense, then it will not reflect brilliantly on building that side of the ball.

The defense looks like it will be missing a few key personnel so will be difficult to judge.

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I don’t know that a ton of judgment can be made on one game if they come out and struggle offensively.  
 

Would be notable if they come out and look competent to good.. 

 

-If a running game is established. 
 

-If skill players have defined roles.  It’s not just deep shots and reluctant check downs. 
 

Not that it would be a criticism or Allen or Dorsey, but maybe there is “move the chains” talent and hyper-aggressiveness is a detriment at times. 

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It's an evaluation of the contingency plan for Allen if nothing else.  

 

The Bills are paying Case Keenum $3.5 million for the "break glass in case of emergency" spot performance.

 

You get 1.1 million for holding the proverbial clipboard.  (Barkley).    

 

If Keenum plays this weekend, I expect a rough first quarter from him but better performances in 2 through 4.  

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Yep, Josh masks all kinds of imperfection all the time.


That magic eraser will be gone on Sunday (assuming he doesn't play which I don't think he will) and a few more warts will show relative to normal.

Still have a strong roster makeup top to bottom though.

 

 

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I have been somewhat critical of Beane's offensive build. But judging him on performance with a backup QB is not fair. Judge him on the fact he is responsible for the OL that has CONSISTENTLY underpreformed in crunch moments that ended up last week getting Josh hurt.

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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

 

It will be a direct indictment on Beane's failures if this team loses which I suspect will be the case without JA17.

 

This offensive line is among the worse in the league and that will be magnified tenfold with a limited QB like Keenum sitting back there for the Vikings to tee off on especially with an even more diminished threat of a running game that they can stack the box against.

 

The key is if the defense can get out of whatever funk they are in and carry the load, but even if they do not sure it will be enough.

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1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

No meaningful evaluations can be made based on one game.

 

I agree with this, but it is also a situation with which we have minimal experience.

There's no real answers to be had but it is a rare data point to add to the equation.

 

I will say that if they walk on to that field without Allen but also missing Groot, Milano, Poyer, Tre White, Spencer Brown and Kaiir Elam, then it becomes meaningless in terms of evaluating the GM.

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3 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

It’s one game.  

Until it becomes 2, and then 3.

 

I think Josh will be gone at least 2, and maybe 3 or 4.

 

I wouldn't expect any more than that.

 

If I had to bet, I'd say he misses 2 games.

 

 

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1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If Josh doesn’t play on Sunday and not really a good or bad topic but how much will you be evaluating the overall roster construction?

Does Josh really mask the warts this team has like the constant talking about a running game or a consistent receiver outside Diggs.

Or does the talent we have step up and be good enough to hold it down til 17 returns? 

Roster build isn't designed around a backup QB, it was built for Josh/offensive skillset that meshes into the coaches' philosophy.

 

That said, you can evaluate the following fairly IMO:

1. Keenum: if Josh is out, Keenum is still an established veteran QB and should be able to move the ball with the offensive talent.  I think if Keenum plays "Peterman" level, then go ahead and put some shade toward Beane for misjudging the backup QB spot.

 

2. Dorsey: directly correlated to above, I have faith Dorsey will put Keenum in situations to succeed with his playcalling.  Dorsey was a very similar QB to Case, get the ball to his playmakers and let them do their job.  I'd expect to see more quick passes, occasional 50/50 deep ball (fade patterns).  Keenum is good at reading defenses, and just needs to avoid turnovers/keep us in 3rd and manageable.

 

 

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