Did the Jets Have a Competitive Advantage?

[MJS]

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:15 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

Cheating has become ethically accepted in all aspects of our society. 

 

"If you're not Cheating,  you're not trying"

 

"Its only cheating if you get caught"

 

"I didn't see the Astros get punished"

 

This is a sad commentary on what we're teaching future generations. 

 

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How is this cheating? Is it against the rules?

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:33 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Less than honorable to go against your word,  but not cheating. 

 

Saleh is the first Muslim HC. I wonder what the "Owner's Manual" (IE: Quran) has to say about "honor" and your word?

 

I know what the Bible says. I forgive you Robert Saleh! 😆 

 

~Matthew 6:14-15

"For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

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He didn't promise never to do it. He said "I don't know if we would ever do that." Now he knows. The answer is: yes, he would do that.

[LABILLBACKER]

If it wasn't a mild form of cheating then the NFL would never have made the rule change forcing the acquired player to stay on the roster.

[ExiledInIllinois]

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:43 PM, Mr. WEO said:

how else do you explain Case Keenum on the Bills roster?

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Good call! That's right, he played on the Vikings in 2017. 😏 

[Gugny]

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:33 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Less than honorable to go against your word,  but not cheating. 

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You expect honor in professional sports?

 

Not cheating.

[machine gun kelly]

The Jets get more than enough on tape to make predictions on the Bills tendencies.  I see this is a nothing burger.

[ExiledInIllinois]

  On 11/9/2022 at 5:49 PM, Gugny said:

 

You expect honor in professional sports?

 

Not cheating.

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Yeah... I am stickler for the small things. This ain't gate jumping at 0400 in Hammer's Lot! 😉 

[Gugny]

The real competitive advantage the Jets had last Sunday was that their QB played better than ours.  

 

~Fin

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

  On 11/9/2022 at 5:53 PM, Gugny said:

The real competitive advantage the Jets had last Sunday was that their QB played better than ours.  

 

~Fin

 

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Easier to do when your safety is giving you the other teams defensive plays! Yeah... Josh still played like poo. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Teams do this all the time. The Bills have done it. It's called strategy, not cheating. Guarantee Jets O-coirdinator called his brother, the GB head coach to get some insight into our D too. It's just good coaching. There's nothing to this. 

[Amaru523]

I think Bobby "the Brain" Heenan said it best........"Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat".

[mjt328]

Both of Josh Allen's interceptions were thrown directly to defenders, with no chance of being completed.  The Jets defense showed very little pressure, and the scheme really had nothing to do with either play.  Just awful decisions by the quarterback which cost us the game.

 

Both of Gabe Davis' drops came with good coverage.  But they were both still plays that should have been made, including the final pass of the game that should have put us into field goal range.

 

The defensive scheme also had nothing to do with horrible call that negated Tremaine Edmunds INT, the missed field goal by Tyler Bass or the poor tackling that resulted in multiple first downs and extended drives.

 

[BarleyNY]

  On 11/9/2022 at 2:59 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Saleh going back on his word.

 

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/robert-saleh-buffalo-bills-jared-mayden/

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[Airseven]

Jets advantage had more to do with players, coaching, game plan, and execution.

[Jauronimo]

No team starting Zach Wilson at QB has a competitive advantage.  

 

In true Bills fashion, we brought our C game to the Jets.

[Herc11]

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:07 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

 

Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003.

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Difference was Buffalo didn't do it solely to gain info. Milloy actually was on the roster,, played, and wasn't cut after the game

[Buffalo716]

  On 11/9/2022 at 4:07 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah.  Remember Opening Day in Buffalo when Bills signed Lawyer Malloy. 31-0. Sam Adams big day against the Pats* w/Bills* in 2003 against future SuperBowl Champions. Brady looked horrible when Bills knew the plays!

Bills did it too... Opening Day 2003.

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Nfl teams change their signals all the time 

[ExiledInIllinois]

  On 11/9/2022 at 7:10 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Nfl teams change their signals all the time 

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Yeah.  That's why Pats* won the last game in 2003 against the Bills by the same exact score they lost to Bills on Opening Day in Orchard Park: 31-0.

 

That's weird! 😆 

[Buffalo716]

  On 11/9/2022 at 7:19 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah.  That's why Pats* won the last game in 2003 against the Bills by the same exact score they lost to Bills on Opening Day in Orchard Park: 31-0.

 

That's weird! 😆 

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So why wouldn’t we be able to use the same signals and kick their ass again?

 

Because good teams change them all the time 

 

You really think coaches use the same signals week in and week out? 

 

High school baseball coaches don’t even use the same steal sign for seven innings lol

Edited November 9, 2022 by Buffalo716

[ExiledInIllinois]

  On 11/9/2022 at 7:25 PM, Buffalo716 said:

So why wouldn’t we be able to use the same signals and kick their ass again?

 

Because good teams change them all the time 

 

You really think coaches use the same signals week in and week out? 

 

High school baseball coaches don’t even use the same steal sign for seven innings lol

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Yeah... But then again, 2003 was in the "cord cutting" era... The Cheaters, took things a step further.  Who knows what they were doing. 5 years later they were accused of jamming signals, intercepting headsets, etc...

[Mr. WEO]

  On 11/9/2022 at 5:23 PM, ExiledInIllinois said:

Good call! That's right, he played on the Vikings in 2017. 😏 

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  zackly!!

 

AND we have Cleveland on the 20th!  He's a goldmine!

Edited November 9, 2022 by Mr. WEO