T master Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 On 11/25/2022 at 7:13 AM, BillStime said: Well it's CA what do you expect they are gluttons for punishment the highest taxes & gas prices of any single state & they continually vote those people back into the seats they hold any one that would continue to put Waters, Schiff, Fienstien, & Newsome in office well read the names & you will need all the info you need to tell how stupid is as stupid does . Hey let's give needles to the junkies and they can give them back when they are done shooting up heroin to stop the spread of aids - BRILLIANT !! San Fran use to be a really beautiful city have you been there recently to see what the progress thinking of these idiots have done to the place i have ... 1
BillStime Posted February 22, 2023 Author Posted February 22, 2023 1 minute ago, T master said: Well it's CA what do you expect they are gluttons for punishment the highest taxes & gas prices of any single state & they continually vote those people back into the seats they hold any one that would continue to put Waters, Schiff, Fienstien, & Newsome in office well read the names & you will need all the info you need to tell how stupid is as stupid does . Hey let's give needles to the junkies and they can give them back when they are done shooting up heroin to stop the spread of aids - BRILLIANT !! San Fran use to be a really beautiful city have you been there recently to see what the progress thinking of these idiots have done to the place i have ... BLOODBATH 1
T master Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: BLOODBATH Ignorants 1-0-1 . 1
HamSandwhich Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 On 11/9/2022 at 6:59 PM, ChiGoose said: Something I've noticed when spending time here on PPP, as well as some other sites, is the tendency of people on the Right to make liberal Americans the enemy. Not just the Democratic Party, or the candidates, electeds, leaders, or pundits, etc, but the voters and people themselves. While I know that there are plenty of liberals who view Republican voters with disdain, I've never heard "Own the Cons" said unironically. It's mostly "what is wrong with these people?" I don't like that view point but it's certainly not as heated as what Albwan posted. It seems that, on the Right, viewing people who disagree with you as the enemy is not just accepted, it seems to be expected. Uh wut? The Dems are always seeing the Republicans as evil, while Republicans disagree with Dem positions. The Dems have turned up the heat in the kitchen, what you're seeing now is the backlash to the zero sum game the dems have been playing for decades now. Don't get it twisted. 1
BillStime Posted April 5, 2023 Author Posted April 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: So much winning
ChiGoose Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Uh wut? The Dems are always seeing the Republicans as evil, while Republicans disagree with Dem positions. The Dems have turned up the heat in the kitchen, what you're seeing now is the backlash to the zero sum game the dems have been playing for decades now. Don't get it twisted. There’s a reason why “own the libs” is a thing while “own the cons” isn’t. 1 1
HamSandwhich Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: There’s a reason why “own the libs” is a thing while “own the cons” isn’t. Youre focusing on one specific thing that is a manifestation of all of the bull that the dems have put the Republicans through before social media became a thing. You're being disingenuous. In society, if you're republican, you're evil to the Dems, it's ok if you're hurt, if you're called names, if you're destroyed career wise, you're a republican. Republican leaning view points are the enemy to the liberal controlled media, education system, and powers. Republicans are the counter culture today. 1
ChiGoose Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Youre focusing on one specific thing that is a manifestation of all of the bull that the dems have put the Republicans through before social media became a thing. You're being disingenuous. In society, if you're republican, you're evil to the Dems, it's ok if you're hurt, if you're called names, if you're destroyed career wise, you're a republican. Republican leaning view points are the enemy to the liberal controlled media, education system, and powers. Republicans are the counter culture today. I don’t want to deny your personal experience but I have to say that what you’ve portrayed does not fit the liberal circles I move in at all. From my personal experience, Dems tend to promote policies, even if those policies would benefit Republican voters than Dems (like nationwide rural broadband). For all the vitriol I’ve seen for politicians like Trump and McConnell, or officials like Ronna McDaniel or the Koch’s, the worst I’ve seen about GOP voters themselves is confusion or frustration. More typically, it’s more of not thinking about them much at all, which is certainly a problem (though you see less of that here in the Midwest than you do on the coasts). 1
HamSandwhich Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, ChiGoose said: I don’t want to deny your personal experience but I have to say that what you’ve portrayed does not fit the liberal circles I move in at all. From my personal experience, Dems tend to promote policies, even if those policies would benefit Republican voters than Dems (like nationwide rural broadband). For all the vitriol I’ve seen for politicians like Trump and McConnell, or officials like Ronna McDaniel or the Koch’s, the worst I’ve seen about GOP voters themselves is confusion or frustration. More typically, it’s more of not thinking about them much at all, which is certainly a problem (though you see less of that here in the Midwest than you do on the coasts). Just a few examples from the left: labeling an inanimate object as racist (wall), labeling anything that has to do with any disparity as racist or sexist or what have you, regardless of any other reason that more easily explains the issue, labeling the person has a -phobe, -ist, etc because of their ideas which are not anywhere near what they are labeling, in order to drive hate towards that person and move the person away from the policy. What do you think these labels connotations are? That those people they are leveling them towards are sweet and nice people, no, they ostracize and demonize at every corner to get what they want, they demonize Republicans ALL THE TIME. Have you been living under a rock? it’s laughable to me that you’re trying to turn the tables on what the Dems have been doing for a long time and blame it on the Republicans. Todays society, the selfishness, the me me me, the I don’t have to listen to you society is racist crowd and I’ll let you know about it and ruin your career is squarely on the democratic side of the aisle, not the Republican side. I shouldn’t be surprised, democrats tend to blame the left for things they’re actually doing. Edited April 5, 2023 by HamSandwhich 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) Damn. The anti cop pro tax guy owon. The state will probably move from top 5 in net domestic migration out of the state to the top three. Congratulations to the PACs/unions that got votes in an off year. Feel bad for the people living in the war zones in the city. Wait they were already top three for the state and the city is doing the same. https://www.cmap.illinois.gov/updates/all/-/asset_publisher/UIMfSLnFfMB6/content/stagnant-international-immigration-slows-population-growth-in-the-chicago-region#:~:text=The Chicago region continues to,over the last four years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration We keep electing more and more extreme candidates. Edited April 5, 2023 by Chris farley
L Ron Burgundy Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 26 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Just a few examples from the left: labeling an inanimate object as racist (wall), labeling anything that has to do with any disparity as racist or sexist or what have you, regardless of any other reason that more easily explains the issue, labeling the person has a -phobe, -ist, etc because of their ideas which are not anywhere near what they are labeling, in order to drive hate towards that person and move the person away from the policy. What do you think these labels connotations are? That those people they are leveling them towards are sweet and nice people, no, they ostracize and demonize at every corner to get what they want, they demonize Republicans ALL THE TIME. Have you been living under a rock? it’s laughable to me that you’re trying to turn the tables on what the Dems have been doing for a long time and blame it on the Republicans. Todays society, the selfishness, the me me me, the I don’t have to listen to you society is racist crowd and I’ll let you know about it and ruin your career is squarely on the democratic side of the aisle, not the Republican side. I shouldn’t be surprised, democrats tend to blame the left for things they’re actually doing. All the things you blame the left for are mostly true. Most of the rational left despises them as much as we do the over the top conspiracy loving loonies on the right. I've never actually met those looney lefties either though. I just see them on Twitter and maybe Facebook. 1 1
Wacka Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: I've never actually met those looney lefties either though. I just see them on Twitter and maybe Facebook. Look in the mirror. 1
HamSandwhich Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: All the things you blame the left for are mostly true. Most of the rational left despises them as much as we do the over the top conspiracy loving loonies on the right. I've never actually met those looney lefties either though. I just see them on Twitter and maybe Facebook. Be louder than them, tell them to sit down and shut up. You will gain my respect. As it stands, their looney ridiculousness is winning the day and their politics are destroying this country. We need the moderates on the right AND left to come together and become the parents in the room again.
Tiberius Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 Victory in Wisconsin! Abortion is an issue that will not go away 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted April 5, 2023 Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said: Be louder than them, tell them to sit down and shut up. You will gain my respect. As it stands, their looney ridiculousness is winning the day and their politics are destroying this country. We need the moderates on the right AND left to come together and become the parents in the room again. Totally agree. If we could shoot into space everyone that gets offended by bs and every conspiracy loving maga moron we would be much better off. I'm not gonna sit on social media all day. And conspiracy nuts aren't going to listen to you, they'll just call you a rino. I'm not sure what normal people can do at this moment. Edited April 5, 2023 by L Ron Burgundy
BillStime Posted April 5, 2023 Author Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said: Be louder than them, tell them to sit down and shut up. You will gain my respect. As it stands, their looney ridiculousness is winning the day and their politics are destroying this country. We need the moderates on the right AND left to come together and become the parents in the room again. 3
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