Yes I know injuries on Defense... But they've been bad the last two weeks....

[Billsfan1972]

At least 6 quarters.  Enough about points allowed, the opposition is moving the ball easily, which keeps the offense on the sidelines.

 

Pickett a rookie had over 300 yards passing (yes a blowout, but nonetheless).  Gashed by the run the last 6 quarters.

 

No way should they allow have allowed Zach Wilson 72% completion % and the Jets to control TOP.

[Rc2catch]

They don’t seem to be playing with the same fire and aggression they started the year with imo. The D line that is. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

I think you comments re Pittsburgh  & Picket are going way overboard.  Yes we played the bend dont break football at the end. The game was never in doubt.  

[LeGOATski]

They've given up 30 points total in those 6 quarters. That's more than enough to allow the offense to win. That's while playing with a bunch of back-ups.

 

The defense is not the issue.

 

The offense has failed and they're not playing complimentary football. When they're not playing complimentary football, it makes the game plan seem off.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Fans need to look around the league. That is not bad defense.

[RoyBatty is alive]

Just now, LeGOATski said:

They've given up 30 points total in those 6 quarters. That's more than enough to allow the offense to win. That's while playing with a bunch of back-ups.

 

The defense is not the issue.

 

The offense has failed and they're not playing complimentary football. When they're not playing complimentary football, it makes the game plan seem off.

Agreed.

 

This isnt on the defense.  The Jets game was primarily a bad O Line and bad QB play. 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I think you comments re Pittsburgh  & Picket are going way overboard.  Yes we played the bend dont break football at the end. The game was never in doubt.  

 

Nor was the Green Bay game.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

They've given up 30 points total in those 6 quarters. That's more than enough to allow the offense to win. That's while playing with a bunch of back-ups.

 

The defense is not the issue.

 

The offense has failed and they're not playing complimentary football. When they're not playing complimentary football, it makes the game plan seem off.

 

The offense would have plenty of points if Allen stopped turning it over at a near NFL leading pace.

 

Bills play as if turnovers are no big deal and don't really care about them on offense, but the team with the best turnover differential in the NFL is the only one still with 0 losses. There is a lesson to be learned in there for them.

[nosejob]

This defensive staff has to have the ability to adapt against opponents on a weekly basis. Getting home with four is great, but it ain't doable every week against every team. It feels like we are stuck in the 90's on D with an old guy that thinks we can do what the 85 bears did.

 

I'd take Schwartz or Pettine any day.

Edited November 8, 2022 by nosejob

[RoyBatty is alive]

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

The offense would have plenty of points if Allen stopped turning it over at a near NFL leading pace.

 

Bills play as if turnovers are no big deal and don't really care about them on offense, but the team with the best turnover differential in the NFL is the only one still with 0 losses. There is a lesson to be learned in there for them.

Lesson to be learned huh.

 

I think anyone with above a room temperature IQ knows the critical importance of turnovers.

[The Jokeman]

12 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

They've given up 30 points total in those 6 quarters. That's more than enough to allow the offense to win. That's while playing with a bunch of back-ups.

 

The defense is not the issue.

 

The offense has failed and they're not playing complimentary football. When they're not playing complimentary football, it makes the game plan seem off.

I agree, we've given up 37 points the last two games, hardly horrible defense. Especially some of those points due to offensive turnovers giving the D a short field. Missed FGs, missed chances on offense and missed tackles on D have lead to the bad performance the last two games. 

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Lesson to be learned huh.

 

I think anyone with above a room temperature IQ knows the critical importance of turnovers.

 

Doesn't seem to be getting through...they are far too careless with the ball.

[nedboy7]

Hard to be a top D with backups.  Not sure how you can overlook that and make any type of rational argument. 

Poyer and Hyde are not replaceable. 

White and Milano are not either. 

You really think with those 4 that game's outcome is not different? 

[Royale with Cheese]

I simply am astonished the Pittsburgh game is being mentioned as a defensive struggle.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

18 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

I think you comments re Pittsburgh  & Picket are going way overboard.  Yes we played the bend dont break football at the end. The game was never in doubt.  

As with Greenbay. That game was never in doubt either and idk why people keep bringing it up when the goal was to bleed the clock

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Doesn't seem to be getting through...they are far too careless with the ball.

In the last two games, it isn't "they" who have been far too careless, it is Allen who's been far too careless. Almost stunningly careless, I might add.

[RoyBatty is alive]

7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

Hard to be a top D with backups.  Not sure how you can overlook that and make any type of rational argument. 

Poyer and Hyde are not replaceable. 

White and Milano are not either. 

You really think with those 4 that game's outcome is not different? 

All true.

 

I think most realistic Bills fans knew we were spoiled  Hyde-Poyer dynamic and it was nearing the end.  Not sure if we have seen the last of the duo but at least we see what football can be without them.

 

Time to stop "resting" Tre, time to see what he has left or we could enter a dangerous mid season spiral., need all the held we can esp return of Milano.

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

In the last two games, it isn't "they" who have been far too careless, it is Allen who's been far too careless. Almost stunningly careless, I might add.

Sad but true and a lot of die hard Allen fans, which I am one, dont have the balls to call a spade a spade.

Edited November 8, 2022 by RoyBatty is alive

[DrDawkinstein]

19 minutes ago, nosejob said:

This defensive staff has to have the ability to adapt against opponents on a weekly basis. Getting home with four is great, but it ain't doable every week against every team. It feels like we are stuck in the 90's on D with an old guy that thinks we can do what the 85 bears did.

 

I'd take Schwartz or Pettine any day.

 

You mean like how they adapted into a Defense that rushed less than 4 and baited the other #1B QB in the NFL into throwing a game-sealing INT to our Defense?

Getting home with only rushing 4 is the biggest key to winning for any defense. Blitzing only opens you up to the hot routes and big plays. The few times we have blitzed, we were taken advantage of in that exact way.

 

Defense isnt the problem.

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I simply am astonished the Pittsburgh game is being mentioned as a defensive struggle.

 

But they moved the ball from the 20 yard line to the other 20 yard line AT WILL. Cant win games letting teams score a whopping 3 points!

 

 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2022 by DrDawkinstein

[Jauronimo]

19 minutes ago, nosejob said:

This defensive staff has to have the ability to adapt against opponents on a weekly basis. Getting home with four is great, but it ain't doable every week against every team. It feels like we are stuck in the 90's on D with an old guy that thinks we can do what the 85 bears did.

 

I'd take Schwartz or Pettine any day.

Pettine's and Schwartz's defenses got run over by New England and the leagues best offenses every year they were here.

[GunnerBill]

20 minutes ago, nosejob said:

This defensive staff has to have the ability to adapt against opponents on a weekly basis. Getting home with four is great, but it ain't doable every week against every team. It feels like we are stuck in the 90's on D with an old guy that thinks we can do what the 85 bears did.

 

I'd take Schwartz or Pettine any day.

 

And the Bills would have a worse defense.