Raiders release Jonathan Abram does anyone need a safety

[CLTbills]

10 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

can't be worse than Johnson?  

 

Poyer was not well thought of prior to coming here.  Hyde was a highly regarded backup.  

 

No risk and potentially huge reward with him.  

As a first round pick though, he probably has a decent-sized contract. I haven't taken the time to go look it up. They may not want that. They may want to let him clear waivers, then sign him for a vet-minimum, "prove it" type deal. 

That's the risk. The first-round pick contract that is attached.

[billsbackto81]

18 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

He ain’t good but would be an upgrade over Johnson.  

Kinda like being the best looking dude in the ICU Burn Unit.

[first_and_ten]

Who knows. Sometimes a fresh start is what a player needs. But the money has to be cap friendly

[Brand J]

Has to be better than Jaquan Johnson, if I were Beane I’d look into it. 

[QCity]

Even though he is undersized, Abram is probably in the top-5 of hardest hitting safeties in the league right now (whatever that counts for). He will often launch himself recklessly at opponents which leads to him getting hurt regularly. He's knocked himself out before, and has even taken out two of his own teammates by accident. The scouting reports here of him being poor in coverage are accurate, but then again he is a much better player than Johnson as many here have also mentioned.

[LABILLBACKER]

It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes.  He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles.

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes.  He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles.

after this week, + miami we don't have much to worry about regarding getting beat deep.

 

i don't think i am worried about cinci's deep game.

[LABILLBACKER]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

after this week, + miami we don't have much to worry about regarding getting beat deep.

 

i don't think i am worried about cinci's deep game.

Exactly.....Cinncy and our home Miami game is it.  Cousins isn't going to light it up deep.  The Bills defensive staff have got to swallow some of their stubbornness and be willing to make adjustments. 

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, CLTbills said:

As a first round pick though, he probably has a decent-sized contract. I haven't taken the time to go look it up. They may not want that. They may want to let him clear waivers, then sign him for a vet-minimum, "prove it" type deal. 

That's the risk. The first-round pick contract that is attached.

 

I agree.  I'd wait to see if he clears waivers, then I'd be on the phone ASAP.  (unless we are okay with rolling the dice on that first round contract and trust our secondary system to fit him like it has for poyer, hyde, etc.)  

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

Even though he is undersized, Abram is probably in the top-5 of hardest hitting safeties in the league right now (whatever that counts for). He will often launch himself recklessly at opponents which leads to him getting hurt regularly. He's knocked himself out before, and has even taken out two of his own teammates by accident. The scouting reports here of him being poor in coverage are accurate, but then again he is a much better player than Johnson as many here have also mentioned.

Which I feel we need. We need someone who can bully the other team a bit. At worst he is a situational player that can lay some wood on folks. Much better than Johnson and not bad vs run heavy teams and many of the potential playoff matchups - Jets, Titans, Ravens.

[freddyjj]

Wonder if OBD makes switch to Marlowe if Poyer can't go.  He started 3-4 games his last year here when Hyde and Poyer were dinged up.  Physically bigger and faster than Jaquan Johnson.  

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

It looks like 2.9M to pick him up. Teams are going to start running more on us. You could bench Juquan and go with 3 safeties. We need to stop obsessing about getting beat deep, and start stopping the run game and short/intermediate routes.  He's fast as he'll and doesn't miss tackles.

it all comes back to whether we expect to be the #1 offense. Teams aren’t going to rush for 30 ppg on us. If we become a team that turns over the ball in the red zone then it’s a whole different conversation 

 

the colts best defensive player was Peyton manning. That dude was a terrible run defender but racked up sacks and turnovers and never gave up a deep ball 

15 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Wonder if OBD makes switch to Marlowe if Poyer can't go.  He started 3-4 games his last year here when Hyde and Poyer were dinged up.  Physically bigger and faster than Jaquan Johnson.  

my suspicion is the term starter won’t matter and that it’ll be package assignments with splits based on situation 

[LABILLBACKER]

Green Bay just got him.

[buffaloboyinATL]

Damn! I was really hoping we could get him.  Stupid Packers.

[SoCal Deek]

45 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Green Bay just got him.

I’m not sure that’s what Rodgers meant when he asked for more weapons?  😉

[Solomon Grundy]

6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Green Bay just got him.

Can he play receiver too? 😎

[3rdnlng]

On 11/8/2022 at 3:35 PM, MiltonWaddams said:

What about Burgess Meredith? Always liked him...

I met a guy a few days ago that is probably in his seventies who could be Burgess Merediths stand in. 

[3rdnlng]

10 hours ago, NoSaint said:

it all comes back to whether we expect to be the #1 offense. Teams aren’t going to rush for 30 ppg on us. If we become a team that turns over the ball in the red zone then it’s a whole different conversation 

 

the colts best defensive player was Peyton manning. That dude was a terrible run defender but racked up sacks and turnovers and never gave up a deep ball 

my suspicion is the term starter won’t matter and that it’ll be package assignments with splits based on situation 

Our defense is designed to compliment our offense when that offense is humming along. We saw that in the Packers game except we didn't do ***** in the 2nd half on offense.