TwistofFate Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Finally got a chance to review the game from yesterday with a clear head and the most blatant problem on defense was Bernard. He was attacked and abused by the Jets all day long in both the passing game and run game. He was frequently out of position, over running plays, losing containment and outright missing tackles. I understand he is a rookie, but my god. Milano is our best backer by far, pray he's back soon. 7 2 4 1 Quote
Back2Buff Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 I still have no idea why he played over Dodson. It's not like our 2 LBs are specialized. The new spots are pretty free flowing. 7 7 2 Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. 5 3 1 11 2 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Bernard was out of position a LOT in the run game. We noticed that as well. 3 1 Quote
whorlnut Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. I agree. But I’m not gonna get into that cause certain posters on this board criticize any posts that talk about what could have been picked instead. 1 1 2 Quote
Roundybout Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, whorlnut said: I agree. But I’m not gonna get into that cause certain posters on this board criticize any posts that talk about what could have been picked instead. It's more that you hate every draft pick after one game. As for Bernard, I don't really care about a third-round rookie's first game. I will choose to evaluate after the season and more experience. 9 1 2 Quote
Logic Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. I mean... Other than the two cornerbacks who have been more than holding their own on the league's number one scoring defense and the fifth round receiver who posted 3 catches for 75 yards and a touchdown in week five and capably returned punts for the first half of the season... Sure. Not good. 6 6 7 1 6 Quote
whorlnut Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Roundybout said: It's more that you hate every draft pick after one game. As for Bernard, I don't really care about a third-round rookie's first game. I will choose to evaluate after the season and more experience. No…ask anyone…I was opposed to a first round corner just cause we needed one. And I wanted IOL to learn behind Saffold. McD is a master at developing DBs and I didn’t think we needed one in the first when their were other perceived needs on the roster. But…yeah Bernard didn’t play well, but you’re right he’s a rookie. Let’s see what he does going forward. Quote
34-78-83 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said: The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. I think Cook is starting to look pretty good and it shows with where they are putting him in during game situations. Also, hoping Shakir figures things out pretty quick here, as he's shown a lot of good signs. Elam, having faced lots of #1's has been up and down (couple excellent picks and some tight coverage plus giving up a ton of underneath outs) but his athletic ability and apparent work ethic looks like he'll get there eventually. Benford has played solid yet unspectacular so far. Bernard? ehhh. we'll see! 5 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 We basically played without a LB yesterday. Bernard did get abused and is not ready. I don't think Dodson or Spector played. Tremaine is a SS. Milano hurt. 1 2 2 Quote
whorlnut Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Logic said: I mean... Other than the two cornerbacks who have been more than holding their own on the league's number one scoring defense and the fifth round receiver who posted 3 catches for 75 yards and a touchdown in week five and capably returned punts for the first half of the season... Sure. Not good. Where has Shakir been since? Imo he needs to take over the slot or at least be more involved, but the coaches are hiding him for some reason. 2 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I still have no idea why he played over Dodson. It's not like our 2 LBs are specialized. The new spots are pretty free flowing. Dodson not perfect but he's much better than Bernard. 2 4 Quote
SectionC3 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. I’m OK with Elam and Benford is a revelation. But, otherwise I agree with you. Cook and Bernard are useless. The Araiza situation nearly submarined the season. Shakir has promise, but . . . It doesn’t translate to the field yet. Spector is a JAG, and Tenuta wasn’t even a JAG. 1 4 2 Quote
whorlnut Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 My problem with Bernard is if they decide to keep edmunds. Milano is under contract. Where does Bernard fit in? A third round pick should be a starter. 2 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: The 2022 draft has not had good early returns. We knew Bernard was going to be the long game. Time will tell. Elam looks like a young stud in the making along either Benford looking like another Dane Jackson. The next tier is Cook and Shakir. Cook has it, and we knew he'd come along slow, he's on verge of a breakout week. Shakir passes the early eyeball test, and his playing time is ramping up as well. I don't know what more the the draft class is able to show on a super bowl favorite by week 9. The two that have started have shown a lot, we have 2 more that have barely played and have looked like exactly what you'd expect... a rookie... there's a spark at times, and rookie mistakes you expect at other times. If someone expected big early returns from this draft class, that's their mistake. Nobody should have thought the start of their season would look any different. 2 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Dodson not perfect but he's much better than Bernard. Hell I’ve seen people assert he’s better than 49 😂 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Where has Shakir been since? Imo he needs to take over the slot or at least be more involved, but the coaches are hiding him for some reason. He was open when i saw him - apparently allen did not see him. 2 1 Quote
zow2 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Finally got a chance to review the game from yesterday with a clear head and the most blatant problem on defense was Bernard. He was attacked and abused by the Jets all day long in both the passing game and run game. He was frequently out of position, over running plays, losing containment and outright missing tackles. I understand he is a rookie, but my god. Milano is our best backer by far, pray he's back soon. Jeez he sounds like the Malik Willis of linebackers. If that’s the case i’d expect the Bills to shore up that position this week. Quote
LabattBlue Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: Bernard was out of position a LOT in the run game. We noticed that as well. Is he being mentored by Edmunds in this regard? 😂 2 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted November 7, 2022 Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I’m OK with Elam and Benford is a revelation. But, otherwise I agree with you. Cook and Bernard are useless. The Araiza situation nearly submarined the season. Shakir has promise, but . . . It doesn’t translate to the field yet. Spector is a JAG, and Tenuta wasn’t even a JAG. "Cook is useless." Watch the games and not the stat sheet. If you can't see what he brings to the table, and what his skillset can and will do for this offense, you can't be helped. Crazy. I can get on board with the 'we should've drafted x' to an extent. But to write off 2 rookies as worthless is stupid. Which 2nd and 3rd rounders from the bottom of the draft order are making big contributions to their team? 2 2 Quote
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