An honest question...

[Royale with Cheese]

38 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Reading is fundamental, RiC.

 

That post was speaking specifically about WR and OL

 

Do try and keep up

 

 

4 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced?

 

Stefon Diggs?

 

I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle.

 

Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? 

 

Tell me where you specified WR and OL?

 

Not only that, but you commented on other posters about other positions too.  Did you forget that you did that or something?

35 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

And yet, the needle of performance on defense hasn't moved in any significant way. Why is that? Given all the investment, it should be the best of the best, and it's just not.

 

 

They are #1 in scoring defense.  I guess since they aren't better than #1...it's a disappointment.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

 

Tell me where you specified WR and OL?

 

Not only that, but you commented on other posters about other positions too.  Did you forget that you did that or something?

 

 

Quote

A team is, by definition, a collection of players. If the players aren't good enough, then the team isn't good enough.

 

That's the problem I think we're facing with groups like the OL and the WRs.

 

Outside of Diggs, Morse and MAYBE Dawkins, the rest just aren't good enough.

 

[Royale with Cheese]

21 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

K.

Well, sure did a fantastic job against a garbage one-dimensional Jets offense yesterday.

 

Loved that tackling, how about you? Also some fantastic pass-rush-win-rating going on too.

 

 

If you're a top unit, you can't ever struggle.  The Chiefs have a great offense...they haven't had any struggles this year.

49ers have a great defense...they haven't struggled at any point of the year.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If you're a top unit, you can't ever struggle.  The Chiefs have a great offense...they haven't had any struggles this year.

49ers have a great defense...they haven't struggled at any point of the year.

 

*face on desk*

 

Your stubborn persistence in rose-colored glasses living has worn down my will to resist.

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

 

 

Yeah, you're definitely only talking about WR and OL.

 

5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Sure

 

Miller

Oliver

Milano

Hyde

Dawkins

White

 

to name a couple. 

 

5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Disagree 2,3,4. Can maybe see a case for 1,5. But the only one I'll solidly agree on is tre white 

 

26 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

K.

Well, sure did a fantastic job against a garbage one-dimensional Jets offense yesterday.

 

Loved that tackling, how about you? Also some fantastic pass-rush-win-rating going on too.

 

 

We'll see how that defense looks in the postseason.

 

because in reality, that's what matters.

 

 

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Who in this team outside of Josh Allen couldn't be replaced?

 

Stefon Diggs?

 

I can't come up with too many other names, and that's troubling. I'm starting to look at beane and McDermott like I do James Franklin. That is to say, they're guys who were able to resurrect a dead program, but I'm afraid they're incapable of actually elevating the program to the pinnacle.

 

Can you name any other players on the roster who aren't easily replaceable? 

Geezus…one loss against a stout defense and we went from SB favorite and most talented roster in the NFL to everyone but 2 guys are replaceable.  That Beane and McD are not good enough.

 

Make. It. Stop.

 

The mental toughness of this board is at an all time low.  Everything must be perfect or we suck and everyone should go.  It’s crazy.  
 

Didn’t realize the Rams had a perfect season last year, or the Bucs the year before, or every SB champion in history. Shame on the Bills for not having a perfect season.  Let’s clean house and rebuild.  

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

*face on desk*

 

Your stubborn persistence in rose-colored glasses living has worn down my will to resist.

 

 

 

Yep.  I'm the only one arguing with you in this thread lol.

[Rico]

4 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Look at the post counts. This is my actual account. Just changed names is all.

26CB?

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Alphadawg7 said:

Geezus…one loss against a stout defense and we went from SB favorite and most talented roster in the NFL to everyone but 2 guys are replaceable.  That Beane and McD are not good enough.

 

Make. It. Stop.

 

The mental toughness of this board is at an all time low.  Everything must be perfect or we suck and everyone should go.  It’s crazy.  
 

Didn’t realize the Rams had a perfect season last year, or the Bucs the year before, or every SB champion in history. Shame on the Bills for not having a perfect season.  Let’s clean house and rebuild.  

 

You have to be a well oiled machine for all 17 games or you're just not good enough.

 

You wonder why he didn't create this thread after beating 3 division leaders?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Rico said:

26CB?

 

Et tu, Rico?

 

t(-.-)t

 

[Mango]

54 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

No your thread is about their Evaluation.  My complaint is McD gets everything he needs for his defense and here is his patch work protection of their Franchise QB

 

Vlad Ducasse

Dion Dawkins - Top 10 LT (Draft)(2nd Round Pick)

Russel Bodine

Marshall Newhouse

Spencer Long

Jon Feliciano

Mitch Morse - Top C (UFA)

Ty Nsekhe

LaAdrian Waddle

Cody Ford (Draft) (2nd Round Pick)

Quinton Spain

Evan Boehm

Garrett McGhin

Daryl Williams

Ike Boettger

Bobby Hart

Jamil Douglas

Forrest Lamp

Spencer Brown (Draft) (3rd)

Jake Anderson (Draft) (7th)

Tommy Doyle (Draft) (5th)

Rodger Saffold

Greg Mancz

Ryan Bates 

 

 

So my count (alot more UFAs too that were fodder) 19 UFAs

5 Draft Picks

 

And got 2 upper echelon OL.

 

If they do have an evaluation problem it is with their ability to find OL, but then again maybe tell Sean he doesnt get to use all the money and premium picks on defense for once.

 

 

This is fair. Similar but less talked about to our struggles at RB. Wyatt Teller being drafted, then traded and becoming a great player is the encapsulation of our success with the OL. Quinton Spain has also been more productive since he left.

 

Our OL should really be Dawkins, Teller, Morse, Spain, Brown. 

 

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Et tu, Rico?

 

t(-.-)t

 

J6P?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Rico said:

J6P?

 

yahtzee

 

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

This is fair. Similar but less talked about to our struggles at RB. Wyatt Teller being drafted, then traded and becoming a great player is the encapsulation of our success with the OL. Quinton Spain has also been more productive since he left.

 

Our OL should really be Dawkins, Teller, Morse, Spain, Brown. 

 

Spain has forced his way out of Buffalo and is now an involuntary free agent. The Bungles released him this offseason after he lost his starting job to someone else who gets Joe Burrow killed.  Is that what you meant by productive?

[Mango]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

Spain has forced his way out of Buffalo and is now an involuntary free agent. The Bungles released him this offseason after he lost his starting job to someone else who gets Joe Burrow killed.  Is that what you meant by productive?

 

Fair enough, I though he had a good year last year, I didn't realize he was still a total dud. 

[Ya Digg?]

13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Geezus…one loss against a stout defense and we went from SB favorite and most talented roster in the NFL to everyone but 2 guys are replaceable.  That Beane and McD are not good enough.

 

Make. It. Stop.

 

The mental toughness of this board is at an all time low.  Everything must be perfect or we suck and everyone should go.  It’s crazy.  
 

Didn’t realize the Rams had a perfect season last year, or the Bucs the year before, or every SB champion in history. Shame on the Bills for not having a perfect season.  Let’s clean house and rebuild.  

Couldn't have said it better - although people call for Beane's and McDermott's jobs when they win but don't win by enough.

 

It is actually quite amusing that certain posters will come on here and complain about the lack of mental toughness from the players but then couldn't be more miserable and negative after a loss

[AuntieEm]

4 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

You need to relax. We lost a game. We are 6-2. You're saying Beane and McDermott can't elevate a team to the pinnacle yet there are 9 games left and plenty of time to correct mistakes. The Chiefs lost to the Colts and didn't play well against the Titans last night. We still have the head to head against all other afc division leaders, we control our own fate. This site is unbearable after losses. How dumb will you look if we win 13 games and get the 1 seed?

 

 

     And they could go out and win every single game till the Super  Bowl and that game will still be determined only on how the players play on that day.  I didn't enjoy the mistakes and the loss yesterday but they earned that loss and if they still give that type of effort in more games they can lose those too.  We all know how capable our players can play so it's disappointing when they all come out so flat.  It is in their own hands how they respond and that will be more telling of what they will accomplish as a team this season.  

Edited November 7, 2022 by AuntieEm

[mannc]

5 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Sure

 

Miller

Oliver

Milano

Hyde

Dawkins

White

 

to name a couple. 

Oliver is a stretch.  Pretty good player, but hardly irreplaceable.  Poyer certainly belongs on the list.  Maybe Morse, too.

[ProcessYaDigg]

5 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

A possible answer. But he's got some injury concerns, hasn't had a full season yet 

True.  But we don't have a solid record with him out of the lineup.  So to me, this is the biggest name that stands out to me on defense, minus Von Miller. 

[Buffalo03]

28 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

     And they could go out and win every single game till the Super  Bowl and that game will still be determined only on how the players play on that day.  I didn't enjoy the mistakes and the loss yesterday but they earned that loss and if they still give that type of effort in more games they can lose those too.  We all know how capable our players can play so it's disappointing when they all come out so flat.  It is in their own hands how they respond and that will be more telling of what they will accomplish as a team this season.  

I really would like to know what this site would have been like had it existed during the Super Bowl years after a bad loss lol