It Just FEELS as Though Buffalo Lost A Lot more Than the Game Yesterday

[Jay_Fixit]

1 hour ago, rockpile said:

The Bills apparently lost a lot of fans yesterday. 🙄

“Fans.”

[Eastport bills]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Not since the Super Bowl year vs the Giants did have the feeling that Buffalo was the best team in the league, and it wasn't even close. Besides losing to an also injury depleted Jets team, most likely the #1 seed, as well a nice cushion in the division, the aura of this team since to have slipped away as well. I am not saying the attitudes of the players have changed, I am talking about people I know. Yes, Bills fans can overreact a ton after a loss, but this one feels different.

 

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

Josh has carried this team through 8 games. Now it’s time for Sean, Dorsey and Frazier, if they’re any good, to build this guy’s confidence by doing what they can to take the pressure off by getting the O-line to protect and run block. They must force feed running the ball in the play calling to slow the rush and finally, improve this run defense and tackling. That game should have been a W with the Jets starting that last drive at their own 5 yard line.

[BuffaloRebound]

When you’re favored to win every game and the other team is coming for you and making off-season personnel moves specifically to beat you, you gotta bring it every week.  

We leave so many points on the field every week.  It’s like we have to be at least 10 points better than the other team to win.  So frustrating to watch.  

[Big Blitz]

It’s not Allen

 

If you’re questioning anything you’re beginning to think there are 3-5 offenses in the AFC better, more balanced, and talented then the Bills - some were more active at the deadline then us and maybe that was a tad deflating.  
 

 

Chiefs (nothing to be said)

Dolphins (Hill, Waddle, their RBs are functional)

Bengals (Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Mixon)

 

 

Bills (Diggs, Davis aaaaaaaand ????) 

 

But here is the good news.  We torch defenses that are average to good.  Great defenses and secondaries can slow us some - Green Bay and the Jets have the defenses to do that.  There are only 2 good defenses I see in the AFC.
 

Not having a slot guy worth a dam is really hurting us.  Not having a RB to make the D at least consider accounting for him is hurting us.  
 

 

More importantly, we need to start learning to play like every team is treating us like their SB.  We have to be able to match and exceed their intensity.  
 

 

I fully expect to pummel the Vikings this week.  No conditions with injury either.  Pummel them.  

[bobobonators]

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

[zow2]

Didn't really see any intensity yesterday, except for the Allen long TD run.  It was all reactionary, especially on D.  The Jets dictated everything....including being much more physical in both trenches.  The Bills looked like the team with the target on their backs.  They are the measuring stick for everyone and like Miami, the Bills game was like a NY Jets home playoff game.  I have to say, it seemed like the O and D were going through the motions for long stretches, which is disappointing on the players and on McDermott.

I think it will get corrected and Allen will find his groove again.  It might be best that the AFC #1 seed pressure turns to KC, Cinci, Miami, etc... and away from Buffalo.  

[Big Blitz]

We’re going 14-3

 

Exactly what we thought was best case

 

The Bengals D is a mess - not worried about them.  
 

The Patriots - no.  Just no.  
 

Jets and Miami at home.  Bring them on already.  
 

 

14-3

[HappyDays]

24 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I feel like I am stuck on repeat but the offensive line IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 

 

I don't think any fanbase in the league is happy with their OL right now. Chiefs fans are saying their highly paid OL is the main reason they almost lost to the Titans last night, they've been complaining about it all year. It is just something most offenses have to gameplan around.

 

I think we just need to get back to what we are good at - pin and pull run game, Allen under center, play action, quick passes on routes that he likes to throw with a few deep shots thrown in at timely moments. And it would help if we had some weapons. The OL wasn't responsible for Davis dropping a perfect throw on 4th and 21. They were responsible for one negative play on the final drive (excluding the awful holding call on Dawkins).

[LABILLBACKER]

I think this little game and a half lull is a product of 6 defensive injuries more than anything else. We're not getting Micah back, but one by one the others starting with Milano have to return. 

    We have to let Josh reset. We need to light a fire under Gabe and this OL. Hines will help as will OBJ when we acquire him. Frazier & McD have to be less stubborn and willing to adjust their base nickel from time to time. A 12-13 win season is still very attainable. 

[smuvtalker]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Not since the Super Bowl year vs the Giants did have the feeling that Buffalo was the best team in the league, and it wasn't even close. Besides losing to an also injury depleted Jets team, most likely the #1 seed, as well a nice cushion in the division, the aura of this team since to have slipped away as well. I am not saying the attitudes of the players have changed, I am talking about people I know. Yes, Bills fans can overreact a ton after a loss, but this one feels different.

 

For me, I am terrified that our invincible QB has gone back to his old ways and that is a pretty scary thought. For the last 2 years, I suppose I never thought that Allen would be the reason we ever lost a game (especially one like yesterday). Although Mahomes is not always perfect, he is never the reason the Chiefs lose a game here or there. Keeping the 1 seed is a distance 2nd place in my list of concerns when compared to how Allen responds the rest of the season. In a nutshell, it just sucks when the Bills vibe is sucked dry on a Monday and today it just seems as though everything has changed moving forward. The Vikings game can't get here soon enough to prove me wrong...

I share your sentiments completely.

 

I too have been a Bills fan for over four decades, and have (emotionally) lived and died with this team.  I was in high school at the beginning of their four super bowl runs, and in college the year of homerun throwback.  I remember getting so upset at my roommate because he laughed as Tennessee ran the ball in for the TD that I literally didn't speak to him for a week.  I used to get so excited after a win, and when we'd lose, I would avoid watching ANY sports shows or reading any articles the entire week.  

As I've gotten older, got married, had children, my priorities changed, and the Bills went on their 17 year drought, I began to care less and less, the pain and emotional stress I endured seemed to just numb with time.  

Then we hired Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane.   Then we drafted one Josh Allen.  I'll be the first to admit, I was as upset with the pick as anyone on this message board.  How wrong I was.  This franchise did a complete 180, and we went from laughing stock to NFL elite, culminating in prior to this current season, a great majority of the country picking the Bills to win it all this year.  

As this team has grown, developed improved, and blossomed, so has my passion for our beloved Bills.  Wins are satisfying once again.  I actually ENJOY watching sportscenter, and reading all the articles.  Not only are the Bills winning, they are DOMINATING.  We've quickly become so spoiled that even when win, if it isn't in what's become customary blowout fashion, we come on here and vent and discuss what needs to happen or where we need to be better.  Last week, even with the double digit victory, we found plenty to find fault with, including JA17, who I'll admit, in my biased eyes, can do no wrong.  But yesterday.....I don't really have the words to accurately describe what I felt.  It wasn't anger.  It wasn't disbelief.  It certainly wasn't denial.  I may not post often, but if you look at my posts, you'll see I'm an eternal optimist.  A sunshine, lolipops and rainbows type of guy. I still remain optimistic, I'm still confident we WILL make the playoffs, and will be contending for that number one seed come January.  But yesterday's loss did something to me.  It filled me with an all-too-familiar feeling, one that I hadn't felt in decades.  I haven't turned the TV back on since the game ended.  I can honestly say, I DO NOT like this feeling.  

I don't know what needs to happen.  I have my opinions just like the rest of us.  We can say Allen needs to be better, our run D has to stiffen up, we need a legitimate WR2, we need to finally establish a consistent run game, we need more reliable slot play, we need guys to get healthier and fast, etc....But what I DO know, and it's the only thing I can say for certain, is that I need Sunday to get here, like right now.  Like yesterday as a matter of fact.  I need something to wash this nasty, nasty a$$ taste out of my mouth and out of my head.

I've heard people say winning cures everything. 

 

I really hope they're right.  

 

Please forgive the lengthy post, but I really needed to get that off my chest, and I pray it was okay to share amongst my fellow Bills fans.  

 

Let's go Buffalo!

[BuffaloBaumer]

12 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

I actually find these comments as the most annoying and refusing to see what problems Lay ahead for this team if things are not fixed. If you don’t agree with the sentiment in this thread, go jump in one that you can relate to.

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I don't think any fanbase in the league is happy with their OL right now. Chiefs fans are saying their highly paid OL is the main reason they almost lost to the Titans last night, they've been complaining about it all year. It is just something most offenses have to gameplan around.

 

I think we just need to get back to what we are good at - pin and pull run game, Allen under center, play action, quick passes on routes that he likes to throw with a few deep shots thrown in at timely moments. And it would help if we had some weapons. The OL wasn't responsible for Davis dropping a perfect throw on 4th and 21. They were responsible for one negative play on the final drive (excluding the awful holding call on Dawkins).

 

Davis could have made the play on 4th and 21 it was a makeable play but that isn't a gimme play either. The fact is our oline failing in game on the line situations is now a pattern that you can simply not ignore. They didn't do enough last offseason. I said it then, I repeat it now. However this season ultimately ends I want the offensive line to be the absolute priority area for upgrades next offseason. Not borderline starters like Quess and Bates or total has beens like Saffold. 

[Greg S]

10 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Didn't really see any intensity yesterday, except for the Allen long TD run.  It was all reactionary, especially on D.  The Jets dictated everything....including being much more physical in both trenches.  The Bills looked like the team with the target on their backs.  They are the measuring stick for everyone and like Miami, the Bills game was like a NY Jets home playoff game.  I have to say, it seemed like the O and D were going through the motions for long stretches, which is disappointing on the players and on McDermott.

I think it will get corrected and Allen will find his groove again.  It might be best that the AFC #1 seed pressure turns to KC, Cinci, Miami, etc... and away from Buffalo.  

 

You should see the media here in the NY/NJ area with TV, newspapers, WFAN. You would think the Jets won the Super Bowl. All week leading up to this game you could tell this wasn't another game to the Jets. All of our divisional rivals are getting fired up to play the Bills since they have been the top team for a couple of years now.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Everyone needs to calm the hell down.  The Jets are an improving team.  The Bills are banged up.  If the Bills get healthy and play up to potential they are still the team to beat in the AFC.  If the injuries continue to mount it will be a lost season due to injury not talent.  

[Airseven]

2 hours ago, rockpile said:

The Bills apparently lost a lot of fans yesterday. 🙄

Less bandwagoners, less mustaches, less hand shakes, less podcasts, less fluff. 👍

[Bruffalo]

Receiver depth has really quickly become a real issue.  

Gabe Davis can't be our #2 if he's going to disappear for games in a row.  When he goes off it's a sight to behold, but we need consistency in that position.

 

We have no slot receiver.  I like Shakir, I think he might be the answer, but it seems obvious right now he isn't in that guy yet in the coaching staff's eyes. McKenzie drops everything when a man is within 2 yards of him.  We needed to attack the middle of the field against the Jets and we couldn't do it.  I don't know why we don't use Knox in the middle of the field more either. 

 

The lack of offensive investment is really starting to rear its end.  We live and die on Allen/Diggs.  The defense should be so much better with how much has been invested in it.  Wilson had the first read throw every time Sunday, that's unacceptable. 

Edited November 7, 2022 by Bruffalo

[thenorthremembers]

The thing that worries me is our lack of offensive weapons.  When I look around the league, especially at the other tops teams, I see rosters stocked with offensive talent.   Outside of Diggs, the Bills are a bit bereft.    I still think Knox can help in this instance, but Dorsey needs to start scheming things up to get him involved.   

 

Thats my main worry right now.   Last year when the Bills were slumping it felt different, Knox was catching TDs, Beasley despite looking older was still great on 3rd downs, and Davis was doing a much better job of catching the ball.  Right now I feel like the Bills have no identity on offense outside of throwing to Diggs and Josh running.   They are missing Daboll's creativity right now.   If Knox and McKenzie are non-existent, Dorsey has to scheme things up to get them involved.

 

 

[zow2]

3 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

You should see the media here in the NY/NJ area with TV, newspapers, WFAN. You would think the Jets won the Super Bowl. All week leading up to this game you could tell this wasn't another game to the Jets. All of our divisional rivals are getting fired up to play the Bills since they have been the top team for a couple of years now.

 

I get it.. And if it weren't for the pain of being 0-2 in the division maybe this isn't a terrible thing.  The Bills had long winning streaks against Miami and NYJ snapped.  It's not normal to be defeating your division foes that often in a row.  It was inevitable... and now the revenge factor will be on Buffalo's side in the rematches and possibly playoffs.  Doesn't mean an automatic W, but it will ramp up the Bills intensity against these teams big time.

[BuffaloRebound]

16 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Some of you are insufferable. Players are human, not robots. The arrow doesn’t keep point upward and onward for eternity. There will be some ups and downs as with everything else in life. 
 

This tweet and stats are just from 2 weeks ago. And some of you are getting ready to jump ship. “Allen is reverting to his old ways” 

 

This thread is insufferable and outright embarrassing. Some of you need to put your big boy pants on. 

I don’t see many posts lamenting that we stink.  It’s just hard to deny the 2 year trend of being 2-7 in games decided by less than 10 points.  Was hoping we turned the corner after the Ravens and Chiefs games.  Everyone (players, coaches, fans) seems to panic when we don’t blow out the teams we should beat.  
When do we pull out games at end like Chiefs and Bucs yesterday where we play like crap for 55 minutes but are confident we’re still gonna pull it out on the end?  Gotta learn to be comfortable playing in tight games.  

[Nuncha]

The last 6 quarters of play have been as GROSS as this J E T S fan picking his nose for millions to see on live TV. 

 

 

However, we still beat a bad Packers team and were a few plays away from a W against the Jets.  This is the point of the season where the best teams will rise to the top.  Will the Bills learn from their mistakes of the past 6 quarters and be one of them?  You have to believe!

Edited November 7, 2022 by Azucho98